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Some words on the Da'wah of Najd:

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@anonymous · Sep 26, 2020

Some words on the DA'WAH OF NAJD (specifically first wave najdism & its supporters) otherwise known as the call of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhāb al-Najdī [1703-1792] (al-Muwahidūn) who religiously spearheaded the Imāra al-Dir‘iyya (first Emirate of Dir'iyya) alongside the political figurehead Muhammad bin Sa'ūd [1685-1765]:

(This article contains numerous links, resources and videos which deconstruct the najdī view regarding ''ibādah'' & ''shirk'' in relation to their view of istighātha)

 

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

 

Let it be known that our sharp disagreement with the da'wah of najd has never been personal or on something petty due to our emotions, rather it's simply on account of our irreconcilable differences in principles which result in a different conclusion naturally.

 

Both sides sharply disagree with each other for the sake of Allāh and they do so sincerely on account of what they believe to be the sound understanding of religion. This has never been about emotions/scoring points or anything personal.

 

Those who support da'wah najdiyya do so on account of their position (which they sincerely believe) that Ibn Abdul Wahhāb was correct in his THEOLOGY on ideas concerning tawhīd, ibādah & shirk (based upon his reading/mishmash of previous ideas espoused by figures like Ibn Taymiyyah), thus his takfīr was justified and thus he was simply waging jihād against mushrikūn.

 

Those who oppose najdiyya do so on account of their position (that they sincerely believe) that Ibn Abdul Wahhāb was not upon sound theology concerning matters like tawhīd, ibādah & shirk, and thus his mass takfīr wasn't justified and thus his movement was essentially fighting & killing innocent Muslims.

 

For example:

https://www.ummah.com/forum/forum/library/islamic-history-persons/12713490-ibn-abd-al-wahhab-s-lack-of-qualifications-and-the-disasters-that-resulted-from-it#post12721487

 

https://wahhabisrefuted.wordpress.com/2017/06/04/the-original-najdis-takfir-upon-the-people-of-makkah/

 

https://wahhabisrefuted.wordpress.com/2017/06/04/the-original-wahhabis-attack-and-kill-people-in-markets-in-ramadan/

 

Obviously the najdiyya find it unimaginable that someone can oppose Ibn Abdul Wahhāb as according to their framework, such Muslims that he considered kuffār truly are mushrikūn and to oppose this, it's tantamount to saying that someone finds worshiping other than Allāh as permissible.

 

They sincerely believe that Ibn Abdul Wahhāb was waging jihād against mushrikūn and his da'wah revived tawhīd and so to disagree with this is essentially saying we have no issue with shirk. Whilst we sincerely believe that those he waged war against were Muslims who weren't upon shirk.

 

Both sides believe that worshipping other than Allāh is major shirk. Those who oppose najdiyya also are in agreement upon the third nullifier set forth by Ibn Abdul Wahhāb "that whoever doesn't make takfīr of mushrikūn" himself is a kāfir (as this is normative). However the disagreement is upon what constitutes as "worship" which relates to the discussion of what constitutes as "shirk" and thus naturally who the "mushrik" is. Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhāb in his understanding of the principle (that we all agree on) also includes Muslims (as a result of his theology) that he considers mushrikūn (which under his theological framework makes perfect sense) whilst to us we are simply referring to actual kuffār mushrikūn who actually commit major shirk. We are coming different principles which lead to different conclusions.

 

Najdiyya consider those who believe actions like directly seeking intercession with the righteous in the graves as worship and thus shirk, whilst we don't see it as worship and thus don't see them people as commuting major shirk. This is what it essentially comes down to.

 

According to najdīs: simply requesting intercession from those absent, unable, or dead constitutes as worship as they believe it neccessitates you giving the one asked exclusive attributes of Allāh & thus it's major shirk & so the original najdiyya shed blood on account of this! They separated belief/intention with the action and thus considered this action similar to what the mushrikūn of Arabia did.

 

Whereas in our view, there is no difference in seeking intercession from the pious like the Messenger  in their life or in the grave, for our request to them isn't with the belief they are Allāh or share any divine qualities for we simply believe they are created slaves who are dependent upon Allāh who can only intercede with His permission and neither do the Muslims ask from them things which are exclusively to Allāh and His Divine attributes! So for example, requesting the Messenger  even from afar "Yā RasūlAllāh, help me by seeking intercession for me!". (In our view, istighātha is an issued which is differed upon in the realm of jurisprudence and not something which is elevated to the level of usūl of imān whereby one makes calls others as polytheists over such issues). So to conclude: the issue of shirk isn't based upon the differentiation of whether someone is being called who is alive/in grave. Rather the issue is whether he calls upon the people in the grave/absent/far-away/unable to help (or anyone else) as a God and believes the called upon can do something independently of Allāh or intercede without the permission of Allāh. In our view, this is a consistent definition of shirk. Whether someone is alive or in the grave (the soul), we believe that in both states they are always dependent upon Allāh and it isn't the case that we believed the person who was living had any capability to do something from himself in the first place and then he lost such an intrinsic ability as he died, rather we always believe the human is dependent upon Allāh in all states. 

 

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https://sunnianswers.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/the-meaning-of-worship/

 
http://sunniport.com/index.php?attachments/shirk-dr-3-pdf.5645/ 

https://hornofsatan.wordpress.com/answering-the-four-principles/

 

https://sunnianswers.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/the-pillar-of-false-shirk-accusations/

 

https://sunnianswers.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/as-sanuusiyy-on-the-types-of-shirk/

http://www.marifah.info/belief-aqidah/190-asharis-on-true-tawhid-and-shirk

http://www.marifah.info/belief-aqidah/189-tawassul-istighatha-shirk-and-causality

http://www.marifah.info/belief-aqidah/137-assessment-of-the-division-of-tawhid-into-uluhiyya-and-rububiyya

http://marifah.info/articles/Madad-HabibUmar.pdf

http://marifah.info/articles/Mawlid-HabibUmar.pdf

 

https://hornofsatan.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/answering-the-wahhabi-deceit-surrounding-the-issue-of-dua-2/

 

https://sunnianswers.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/wahhabi-contentions-1-asharism-and-sufism-were-separate-and-merged-and-2-calling-to-other-than-allah-is-shirk/

Divine Lightning, refutation of MIAW by his brother, Imam Sulayman Ibn Abdul Wahhab.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtWrqEAWw-mlN8Uc-4JCF8GiqxRMVR1tu

The so-called repentance of Imam Sulayman Ibn Abdul Wahhab:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1304594967449530368.html

Shaykh Sayf al-Asri critique of the taymiyyan/najdi creed:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFtvkS-c3iw&feature=emb_title

Key moments from the legendary istighatha debate (2016):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rgRuHunf7M&list=PLfuOnTgfohAeANSe7PUPx3PO4n6MIVhAP


Tawhid Essentials Series: 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4GILDsvK8lMhpiN9jPogE1EJatags3tA

https://wahhabisrefuted.wordpress.com/2015/07/20/imam-taqi-al-din-al-subki-on-tawassul-istighatha-and-tashaffu/

https://hornofsatan.wordpress.com/2014/01/31/traditional-scholars-on-hearing-of-the-dead/

https://sunnianswers.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/ibn-al-qayyim-argues-for-the-validity-of-calling-the-dead/

https://wahhabisrefuted.wordpress.com/2017/09/03/on-the-messenger-of-allah-s-asking-for-our-forgiveness-after-his-passing/

https://wahhabisrefuted.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/various-scholars-quoted-by-qadi-yusuf-al-nabhani-on-istigatha-and-tawassul/


http://hadithproofsfortawassul.blogspot.com/?m=1

https://www.revisitingthesalaf.com/2013/09/tawassul-in-light-of-quraan-and-hadeeth_7868.html?m=1

https://salafiaqeedah.blogspot.com/2011/06/ya-shaykh-madad-istighatha-istiana.html

http://www.ahlus-sunna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=116

https://beneficialilm.com/2013/03/12/the-meaning-of-madad/?fbclid=IwAR0Z4PlhNKw-6e4rzQ7BI67WFJ5chjqjh3pXN-0JU2yyBQ8oEwR0F0DvYe8

Life of the Prophets, Allāh raise their ranks, in the grave

https://aqdas.webnode.com/_files/200000047-7fa1a809b2/hayat.pdf

http://www.ahlus-sunna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55&Itemid=115

Seeking blessings:

https://aqdas.webnode.com/_files/200000020-5c2f35c8db/seekingblessings.pdf

Imam Ahmad Rida Khan - Safety and Greatness for those who describe the Messenger ﷺ as the remover of difficulties:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/161xdJMEBPunmNwWSiEAmSorU6576LE-1/view

There is no creator other than Allah:

https://justpaste.it/26r2r

More on is ''Du'ā' always a form of worship?'' (written by someone not pro istighaha):

https://justpaste.it/4tezj

Is calling upon an absent a form of polytheism? (written by someone not pro istighaha):

https://justpaste.it/634bn

More on the shirk of the idol worshipers:

https://justpaste.it/5e9b9

https://justpaste.it/4mq4c

Some basic definitions:

https://justpaste.it/4d9ne

More critique of the taymiyyan/najdi creed:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1288391206083473409.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1288434376687128577.html

Shāh Ábd al-Ázīz al-Ĥanafī al-Naqshbandī Muĥaddith al-Dihlawī [1159-1238 AH / 1746-1823 CE] on Istighātha:

https://justpaste.it/3wddv

Shāh Ábd al-Ázīz on the difference between idol worship and seeking help from the awliyā:

https://justpaste.it/6srnk


Asking the righteous for an extraordinary matter: 

https://justpaste.it/8em58|

The righteous hearing many calls at once:

https://justpaste.it/6u1g5

The 'help' of the righteous:

https://justpaste.it/8qn7h

Asking for something not in the realm of what is customarily possible:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1309721780790210561.html

Sunnis saying ''Ya Ali Madad'':

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1286490872515788801.html

Istighatha of Shah WaliyAllah al-Dehlawi:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1292113428300140545.html

Istimdad: Shah Abd al-Aziz al-Dehalwi:

https://twitter.com/IbneKhan01/status/1277278160334225409

Istighatha of Shehu Uthman Dan Fodio:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1276523224956895233.html

Istighatha of Imam Ibn al-Muqri':

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1283274901131059200.html

True source and power is only from Allah:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307463285135093760.html

Reasoning behind istighatha:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1285430606848040961.html

No difference between life and death:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1309337239307124737.html

''The deceased has no ability'':

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1309339237356130305.html

Response to ''things which only Allah can do'':

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307527000446435332.html

Istighatha discussion from Shaykh Salek al-Maliki:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1270123375927721984.html

Some important points about istighatha:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1278803749398601728.html

''You Alone we worship and You Alone we seek assistance'':

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307523884162445313.html|

Beliefs behind seeking help from the righteous:

https://justpaste.it/9smtb

Some words on the da'wah of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307523884162445313.html

Difference between the false gods of the kuffar and the righteous:

https://justpaste.it/80gna

More words on the issue of Du'a:

https://justpaste.it/69li0

Istimdad in the fataawa of Shaykh al-Islam Imam Ebussuud Efendi:

http://ahl-al-sunna.blogspot.com/2014/01/istimdad-in-fatwas-of-shaykh-al-islam.html?m=1

Attributing extraordinary matters to the righteous:

https://justpaste.it/95ceb

Misconception about the hadith (If You Ask)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1309723044815011840.html

Expressions used in istighatha:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1309728479282450433.html

Summary of istighatha:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1309729479305068544.html

Misquotation of Imam al-Birgivi:

http://ahl-al-sunna.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-mis-attribution-to-imam-birgivi.html?m=1

Miscellaneous articles on istighatha:

https://miqyasalnurblog.wordpress.com/?s=istighatha 







Summary:

The Najdiyya believe those who regard such actions as permissible as mushrikūn whilst we regard najdiyya as a heretical movement on account of their misunderstanding of theology, takfīr (mass takfīr) and then on top of this, their bloodshed of the Muslims.

 

Both groups are sincere and hold such positions for the sake of Allāh so it has never been about emotions or personal issues.

 

Thus, it is actually more productive and healthy for both sides to make clear where they stand with each other rather then beating around the bush.

Indeed, no matter how much we oppose each other on a theological level, we can still always maintain basic decorum in our dialogue to get our ideas across, whilst alongside having the sincere intention of pursuing the truth, rather than simply point-scoring. And Allāh knows best.