MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

Hi mate. So, Ramp is the new CEO of TK. Ofc, will be a transition period and I'll be helping with it. He's trying to bring all people together (i saw you're already on the main discord) and thats a good thing. In order to accomplish some goals, the team need to be united. The message I want to pass trought everyone is, even tho changes are not always seen easily, they normally positive, if in the right direction.

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

yeah

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

I hope I can on you to help hi out.

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

i dont think its a good idea to get everyone onto the second discord tho

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

*count on you

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

not only will people be on multiple TK discords

 

 

but they will also get constant messages from that discord about things related to other games or things that are only relevant to managers

 

 

so i think i'd prefer if only the managers of each team used that discord and not all the players

 

 

and im pretty sure my players agree

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

well, if the main discord get better organized, i dont see any probs with that

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

i dont see any benefit to ahving everyone on the main discord

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

the way i see it now (discord) i found it a bit deorganized

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

disorganised?

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

that :smiley:

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

the one he made?

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

broken english sry

 

 

yes

 

 

i think it need some changes to fit better other games

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

yeah

 

 

but still

 

 

i dont see any merit to connecting all games

 

 

i think only the managers of all sections should be combined

 

 

90% of my players dont give a shit about the other games

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

will bring people together and help out with communications

 

 

thats why the mai discord as a room (text and voice) for each game

 

 

*has

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

not a fan of this double discord idea regardless

 

 

and i wont suggest my members to join the other tk

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

everything I asked you you made it twice as good, so dont worry,

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

if they want to, they can feel free, but i will remind them it is optional and has nothing to do with you

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

^^

 

 

"my members" are actually team kingz members, i am wrong?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

*am I

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

they are

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

and you are? The kingz sc2 squad manager right??

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

yes

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:01 PM

 

ok, so, am i missing something here?

 

 

im asking you, the sc2 division boss, to pass trough the message from the team kingz adminsitration

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:01 PM

 

i will not recommend them to join some other spam discord that I dont approve of

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:02 PM

 

im not telling you cant do something or asking you to change anything profound.

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:02 PM

 

ok

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:02 PM

 

the other "spam discord that you dont aprove is the main TK discord

 

 

where ALL gamers from ALL games should met~

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:03 PM

 

but its so spammy i have it on mute anyways and never read it

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:03 PM

 

its not

 

 

you dont read it

 

 

cuz you dont aprove it

 

 

BUT

 

 

as i said

 

 

you know what

 

 

nvm

 

 

u wont do what im asking right?

 

 

i mean

 

 

if me or some one, hierarchy superior to you in TK management ask you anything, you wont ask that "to your players"

 

 

sry mrl

 

 

that is one thing its not making any sense atm

 

 

TK is taking one direction, important one. We need game managers, division manager we can trust and knows how organization, cooperation and hierarchy works. Please think about this and let me know your thoughts. I will lunch now. Be back later

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:12 PM

 

I am happy managing the sc2 section but i dont want stuff to be forced on me or people telling me what to do

 

 

im not a soldier; i wont pass on stuff to my players that I dont agree with

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:15 PM

 

From that perspective, if the ceo of TK ask you to gather your players to join some kknd of tournament. You dont agree, because whatever, so you wontpass the info to the players?!

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:16 PM

 

generally tho, why would i disagree with us playing a tournament?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:16 PM

 

Sry mrl, thats now how it works. Besides, all im asking is you to pass the info details to the sc2 players. Thats why each squad as its manager, so the administration of the org doesnt need to pass the info themselfs

 

 

"im not a soldier; i wont pass on stuff to my players that I dont agree with"

 

 

And this is not a war, neither a political regime, its a multigaming organization.

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:24 PM

 

im gonna grab lunch now

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:24 PM

 

Can we meet in 30/45mins together witl Andromeda and Daffe (if on) in admins room?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:24 PM

 

what does this have to do with them?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:25 PM

 

Everything. They're sc2 officers. I want to point some facts and i would like to officers to join us

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:25 PM

 

point some facts?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:25 PM

 

yes

 

 

facts and announcemts

 

 

announcements

 

 

brb

 

 

Tbh, im a nit increduble about your behaviour. Im not understanding. Your behaving like Kingz is yours, and bro, that bothers me :frowning:

 

 

*a bit

 

 

So, please, let us be straight with eachother and let me know what is the problem here

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:42 PM

 

increduble?

 

 

what does it mean?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:43 PM

 

ty google translator. I mean incredulous

 

 

anything?

 

 

Ok i start

 

 

I will be completly honest with you bud

 

 

I thank you for the awesome job you're doing managing sc2 division. honestly

 

 

If depends on me, I want you to keep doing just that

 

 

BUT

 

 

wars and soldiers appart, you need to understand that Kingz is changing - as we sepak~

 

 

We are more organized then ever

 

 

We have more human resources then ever

 

 

We are stronger then ever

 

 

and because of this

 

 

we need to have trustfull managers, and people we can rely on

 

 

FYI, ramp is co founder of grow up gaming, one of the most succesfull multigaming orgs in europe - just google it

 

 

We WILL change, for better

 

 

All i am asking you is

 

 

understand hierarchy

 

 

the meaning of organization

 

 

cooperate

 

 

its that too much?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:50 PM

 

yes. i want to be in a communtiy, where there is no real hierarchy

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:51 PM

 

no organization works without hierarchy

 

 

and bro

 

 

im an arch muself

 

 

but if we want to improve

 

 

we need to work together

 

 

and we need hierarchy

 

 

in lack of other managing system

 

 

*myselg

 

 

geez

 

 

m y s e l f

 

 

fuck

 

 

... sry bro

 

 

gimme an example of a succesfull org without hierarchy

 

 

name 1

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:53 PM

 

FFG

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:54 PM

 

and lets be honest, is adnro or daffe on the same stage as you on TK? NO! You are the manager, and they are not

 

 

thats hierarchy, even if you dont want tp call it by that name

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:54 PM

 

do they do what I tell them to if they dont agree with it? no! Do i have a problem with it? no!

 

 

even tho i am technically above them I would never make a decision over them

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:55 PM

 

and we're not forcing anything

 

 

please understand it

 

 

but we need TK gamers together in one place

 

 

you can keep sc2 discord

 

 

but

 

 

lets not fight for something pointless

 

 

it only makes sense

 

 

you forced everyone that wants to play CW's to join discord. Am i worng??

 

 

its exactly what we're trying to accomplish here

 

 

we need, and we will have all kingz together

 

 

might be in both, np with that

 

 

but main discord. well, will be the main ...

 

 

now, the million dollar question, can i (we) count on you. Count on you to have a succesfull sc2 squad, with all the resources and positive things that come along with tight organization and cooperation. I would like to have an yes or no. You cant think about it. And please bro, do it!

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:00 PM

 

btw FFG its a company, how do they manage a company without hierarchy??

 

 

we aim to associate by the end of the year - just to let you know at what stage are we in

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:01 PM

 

associate?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:01 PM

 

yes, legally

 

 

form an association

 

 

its saying that in the next year, we might be running on contracts

 

 

we want to go pro, and keep the familiar side of the gaming. From all to all. We are different. We always were. And I will make sure that Kingz will keep being a team for everyone. But, the golden age of esports is here and kicking in. We want to get the train.~

 

 

The time is now.

 

 

(i sound peter joseph form zeitgeits) xD

 

 

zeitgeist

 

 

will you think about it?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:05 PM

 

im thinking

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:07 PM

 

ok, all we ask you at this point is to bring ppl together. Ofc, in the future things may change. Thats life, everything is changing. If we someday get a gm semi pro players whatever, we surely will ask for other things, like streamings, tournaments, etc.

 

 

Trust me, we will do everything in our hands to make it work. Thats a true opportunity right now, and i wont waste it

 

 

ill be here until 6pm

 

 

saying 2 hours from now

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:11 PM

 

I want the sc2 part of kingz to remain a happy familiar community and i dont want any business involved. If we get a sponsor involved, then sure i'm happy with that but I dont want my members to be forced to join anything. We can exist with the TK flag but i dont want us forced into a business monetised main organisation

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:14 PM

 

You do understand that sponsorship requieres commitment?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:14 PM

 

i have hosted sc2 tournament and received sponsorships for those

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:16 PM

 

And how do you suggest to comply with demands (in exchange of sponsorship) when none is asked (noticed "asked" nor forced) do to anything?

 

 

None will ever be forced to do anything. Players and staff will be asked for. Asked to stream, asked to play, asked...

 

 

We'll have both side. Competitive, and casual.

 

 

We already do

 

 

thats eachother option

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:19 PM

 

we can see what the sponsors want - some logos here and there is fine

 

 

and if they want something we dont want, then we dont need their sponsorship

 

 

essentially

 

 

I want the sc2 community to stay as it is and i do not want to be bothered by what other kingz games are doing

 

 

I do not want my members to be forced to join some spammy discord

 

 

I do not want any restrictions or behaviours forced onto our team

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:26 PM

 

we have here then

 

 

we have a problem here*

 

 

fisrt, you keep using the "force" word

 

 

none will force anything

 

 

secondly

 

 

This is a long term strategy

 

 

as i said

 

 

we will have both, casual and competitive

 

 

casual wont be asked anything, they might play competitive in opne day, casual the next day

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:27 PM

 

I will stay with the casual and if you want to make a seperate team for competetive then feel free

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:28 PM

 

ok, thats actually sounds good and its is, perhaps, the first positive thing ive heard from you on last 2 hours

 

 

jesus man

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:29 PM

 

but there was never someone stopping you from making a seperate team in the first place

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:29 PM

 

thats an ideia i will share

 

 

still

 

 

kingz is the main team

 

 

i mean [kingz] tag

 

 

so

 

 

ir order to get that done

 

 

sec

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:30 PM

 

all of the current sc2 division will fall under the category of casual

 

 

and, as I said, i dont want anyone joining the other discord or being urged to join the multigaming - or anyone that tells me or my players how to behave and what to do

 

 

so

 

 

will it be possible, for the entire sc2 community as it is right now, involving all current active members and officers, to remain as they were before without having to connect with the rest of the multigaming organisation?

 

 

with no rules and orders given from the "people above us in the hierarchy" such as ramp?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:42 PM

 

gimme a minute pls

 

 

We will make a decison and will get back on this subject next weekend

 

 

all board should vote, wont append now

 

 

for now being, everything will keep the same

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:59 PM

 

i dont want to wait on the decision for another week

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:00 PM

 

it is clear that we have different goals

 

 

you want to go into more of a business, I want to keep it as a small community

 

 

so I think it would be best if you used new people for the sc2 section that are more interested in this multigaming-business-competetive model

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:03 PM

 

pls dont put words on my mouth.

 

 

This started cuz you dont want "your" players joining the multigaming org discord

 

 

thats the first fact

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

put words into your mouth?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

yes

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

so you do not want kingz to become a business?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

i never said

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

so you do not want it to be super linked as multigaming?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

i wanted to go business orientade model

 

 

thats you saying it

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

what about the contracts?

 

 

the associate?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

yes, no really sponsor makes a contract with an shadow org

 

 

we need to be legal

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

i really dont think they would like to join a second discord server for connection to other game

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

combining the managers can work out nicely, but forcing all players to join a second discord where they get spammed isnt amazing

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

since there is several people playing several games

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

not many tho

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

not forcing . we are asking

 

 

MisterL2-09/25/2016

 

those 10% can join the discord sure

 

 

MegaMan-09/25/2016

 

and you can and should be an admin in the main one

 

 

in order to change whatever we need in respect of game specifics

 

 

like making the main discord looks like the one we use for sc

 

 

tbh, i dont have any probs with the sc discord

 

 

but lets be honest, as a multigaming, doesnt make any sense having one discord per game

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

not a fan of this double discord idea regardless

 

 

and i wont suggest my members to join the other tk

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

everything I asked you you made it twice as good, so dont worry,

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

if they want to, they can feel free, but i will remind them it is optional and has nothing to do with you

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 11:59 AM

 

^^

 

 

"my members" are actually team kingz members, i am wrong?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

*am I

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

they are

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

and you are? The kingz sc2 squad manager right??

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

 

yes

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:01 PM

 

ok, so, am i missing something here?

 

 

im asking you, the sc2 division boss, to pass trough the message from the team kingz adminsitration

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:01 PM

 

i will not recommend them to join some other spam discord that I dont approve of

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:02 PM

 

im not telling you cant do something or asking you to change anything profound.

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:02 PM

 

ok

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:02 PM

 

the other "spam discord that you dont aprove is the main TK discord

 

 

where ALL gamers from ALL games should met~

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:03 PM

 

but its so spammy i have it on mute anyways and never read it

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:03 PM

 

its not

 

 

you dont read it

 

 

cuz you dont aprove it

 

 

BUT

 

 

as i said

 

 

you know what

 

 

nvm

 

 

u wont do what im asking right?

 

 

i mean

 

 

if me or some one, hierarchy superior to you in TK management ask you anything, you wont ask that "to your players"

 

 

sry mrl

 

 

that is one thing its not making any sense atm

 

 

TK is taking one direction, important one. We need game managers, division manager we can trust and knows how organization, cooperation and hierarchy works. Please think about this and let me know your thoughts. I will lunch now. Be back later

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:12 PM

 

I am happy managing the sc2 section but i dont want stuff to be forced on me or people telling me what to do

 

 

im not a soldier; i wont pass on stuff to my players that I dont agree with

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:15 PM

 

From that perspective, if the ceo of TK ask you to gather your players to join some kknd of tournament. You dont agree, because whatever, so you wontpass the info to the players?!

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:16 PM

 

generally tho, why would i disagree with us playing a tournament?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 12:16 PM

 

Sry mrl, thats now how it works. Besides, all im asking is you to pass the info details to the sc2 players. Thats why each squad as its manager, so the administration of the org doesnt need to pass the info themselfs

 

 

"im not a soldier; i wont pass on stuff to my players that I dont agree with"

 

 

And this is not a war, neither a political regime, its a multigaming organization.

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 12:24 PM

 

im gonna grab lunch now

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:24 PM

 

Can we meet in 30/45mins together witl Andromeda and Daffe (if on) in admins room?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:24 PM

 

what does this have to do with them?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:25 PM

 

Everything. They're sc2 officers. I want to point some facts and i would like to officers to join us

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:25 PM

 

point some facts?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:25 PM

 

yes

 

 

facts and announcemts

 

 

announcements

 

 

brb

 

 

Tbh, im a nit increduble about your behaviour. Im not understanding. Your behaving like Kingz is yours, and bro, that bothers me :frowning:

 

 

*a bit

 

 

So, please, let us be straight with eachother and let me know what is the problem here

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:42 PM

 

increduble?

 

 

what does it mean?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:43 PM

 

ty google translator. I mean incredulous

 

 

anything?

 

 

Ok i start

 

 

I will be completly honest with you bud

 

 

I thank you for the awesome job you're doing managing sc2 division. honestly

 

 

If depends on me, I want you to keep doing just that

 

 

BUT

 

 

wars and soldiers appart, you need to understand that Kingz is changing - as we sepak~

 

 

We are more organized then ever

 

 

We have more human resources then ever

 

 

We are stronger then ever

 

 

and because of this

 

 

we need to have trustfull managers, and people we can rely on

 

 

FYI, ramp is co founder of grow up gaming, one of the most succesfull multigaming orgs in europe - just google it

 

 

We WILL change, for better

 

 

All i am asking you is

 

 

understand hierarchy

 

 

the meaning of organization

 

 

cooperate

 

 

its that too much?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:50 PM

 

yes. i want to be in a communtiy, where there is no real hierarchy

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:51 PM

 

no organization works without hierarchy

 

 

and bro

 

 

im an arch muself

 

 

but if we want to improve

 

 

we need to work together

 

 

and we need hierarchy

 

 

in lack of other managing system

 

 

*myselg

 

 

geez

 

 

m y s e l f

 

 

fuck

 

 

... sry bro

 

 

gimme an example of a succesfull org without hierarchy

 

 

name 1

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:53 PM

 

FFG

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:54 PM

 

and lets be honest, is adnro or daffe on the same stage as you on TK? NO! You are the manager, and they are not

 

 

thats hierarchy, even if you dont want tp call it by that name

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 1:54 PM

 

do they do what I tell them to if they dont agree with it? no! Do i have a problem with it? no!

 

 

even tho i am technically above them I would never make a decision over them

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 1:55 PM

 

and we're not forcing anything

 

 

please understand it

 

 

but we need TK gamers together in one place

 

 

you can keep sc2 discord

 

 

but

 

 

lets not fight for something pointless

 

 

it only makes sense

 

 

you forced everyone that wants to play CW's to join discord. Am i worng??

 

 

its exactly what we're trying to accomplish here

 

 

we need, and we will have all kingz together

 

 

might be in both, np with that

 

 

but main discord. well, will be the main ...

 

 

now, the million dollar question, can i (we) count on you. Count on you to have a succesfull sc2 squad, with all the resources and positive things that come along with tight organization and cooperation. I would like to have an yes or no. You cant think about it. And please bro, do it!

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:00 PM

 

btw FFG its a company, how do they manage a company without hierarchy??

 

 

we aim to associate by the end of the year - just to let you know at what stage are we in

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:01 PM

 

associate?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:01 PM

 

yes, legally

 

 

form an association

 

 

its saying that in the next year, we might be running on contracts

 

 

we want to go pro, and keep the familiar side of the gaming. From all to all. We are different. We always were. And I will make sure that Kingz will keep being a team for everyone. But, the golden age of esports is here and kicking in. We want to get the train.~

 

 

The time is now.

 

 

(i sound peter joseph form zeitgeits) xD

 

 

zeitgeist

 

 

will you think about it?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:05 PM

 

im thinking

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:07 PM

 

ok, all we ask you at this point is to bring ppl together. Ofc, in the future things may change. Thats life, everything is changing. If we someday get a gm semi pro players whatever, we surely will ask for other things, like streamings, tournaments, etc.

 

 

Trust me, we will do everything in our hands to make it work. Thats a true opportunity right now, and i wont waste it

 

 

ill be here until 6pm

 

 

saying 2 hours from now

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:11 PM

 

I want the sc2 part of kingz to remain a happy familiar community and i dont want any business involved. If we get a sponsor involved, then sure i'm happy with that but I dont want my members to be forced to join anything. We can exist with the TK flag but i dont want us forced into a business monetised main organisation

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:14 PM

 

You do understand that sponsorship requieres commitment?

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:14 PM

 

i have hosted sc2 tournament and received sponsorships for those

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:16 PM

 

And how do you suggest to comply with demands (in exchange of sponsorship) when none is asked (noticed "asked" nor forced) do to anything?

 

 

None will ever be forced to do anything. Players and staff will be asked for. Asked to stream, asked to play, asked...

 

 

We'll have both side. Competitive, and casual.

 

 

We already do

 

 

thats eachother option

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:19 PM

 

we can see what the sponsors want - some logos here and there is fine

 

 

and if they want something we dont want, then we dont need their sponsorship

 

 

essentially

 

 

I want the sc2 community to stay as it is and i do not want to be bothered by what other kingz games are doing

 

 

I do not want my members to be forced to join some spammy discord

 

 

I do not want any restrictions or behaviours forced onto our team

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:26 PM

 

we have here then

 

 

we have a problem here*

 

 

fisrt, you keep using the "force" word

 

 

none will force anything

 

 

secondly

 

 

This is a long term strategy

 

 

as i said

 

 

we will have both, casual and competitive

 

 

casual wont be asked anything, they might play competitive in opne day, casual the next day

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:27 PM

 

I will stay with the casual and if you want to make a seperate team for competetive then feel free

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:28 PM

 

ok, thats actually sounds good and its is, perhaps, the first positive thing ive heard from you on last 2 hours

 

 

jesus man

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:29 PM

 

but there was never someone stopping you from making a seperate team in the first place

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:29 PM

 

thats an ideia i will share

 

 

still

 

 

kingz is the main team

 

 

i mean [kingz] tag

 

 

so

 

 

ir order to get that done

 

 

sec

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:30 PM

 

all of the current sc2 division will fall under the category of casual

 

 

and, as I said, i dont want anyone joining the other discord or being urged to join the multigaming - or anyone that tells me or my players how to behave and what to do

 

 

so

 

 

will it be possible, for the entire sc2 community as it is right now, involving all current active members and officers, to remain as they were before without having to connect with the rest of the multigaming organisation?

 

 

with no rules and orders given from the "people above us in the hierarchy" such as ramp?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 2:42 PM

 

gimme a minute pls

 

 

We will make a decison and will get back on this subject next weekend

 

 

all board should vote, wont append now

 

 

for now being, everything will keep the same

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 2:59 PM

 

i dont want to wait on the decision for another week

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:00 PM

 

it is clear that we have different goals

 

 

you want to go into more of a business, I want to keep it as a small community

 

 

so I think it would be best if you used new people for the sc2 section that are more interested in this multigaming-business-competetive model

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:03 PM

 

pls dont put words on my mouth.

 

 

This started cuz you dont want "your" players joining the multigaming org discord

 

 

thats the first fact

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

put words into your mouth?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

yes

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

so you do not want kingz to become a business?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

i never said

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

so you do not want it to be super linked as multigaming?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

i wanted to go business orientade model

 

 

thats you saying it

 

 

MisterL2-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

what about the contracts?

 

 

the associate?

 

 

MegaMan-Last Sunday at 3:04 PM

 

yes, no really sponsor makes a contract with an shadow org

 

 

we need to be legal