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    Wednesday, April 13, 2011


      "Anonymous" Commenters on Computers Registered to the Louisiana
      Baptist Convention and Kelly Boggs <https://
      therapidesnote.blogspot.com/2011/04/anonymous-commenters-on-
      computers.html>

In the below post <http://therapidesnote.blogspot.com/2011/03/baptist-
message-louisiana-college.html>, so far, there are three comments. The
first two comments came from a computer registered to the Louisiana
Baptist Convention. This is confirmed by StatCounter <http://
statcounter.com/>.

<https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjN-
pENwhpZkwWOAS9FBeTjYSUV6cV0tmzP5a-
nkMjNZP0l1vNJAwFIWkQbqy87URKkQBamotenvWj4oRBcj7wZ08zvO__mh_A-
nbnuMHkA7OGUPdFfdoUW7LFwlgEJuTSvB-WKygAvpsRP/s1600/
baptist_message_commenters.jpg>
Figure 1 below shows that the computer registered to the Louisiana
Baptist Convention the time of visit as well as the out click on the
comments link match to the comments time stamp.

<https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/
AVvXsEiOaLMiBem_y3vMjiR2A8CnYRt1AR118-
r5mYULRuCZ5lmiKbqJFoS0qNd4FQ28Vl1IdANsUPrT0ZPbp453JwwJ9xg6y0go-
xPTXWFjLzjaLzbo1J2hXqO5ktWCxAgPcir9t7tRreiIXx1_/s1600/
louisiana_baptist_convention_commenter.jpg>
Figure 2 below is from the StatCounter log and is of the computer that
Baptist Message Editor, Kelly Boggs uses. The time and comments out
click correspond to the third comments time stamp.

Additionally, according to StatCounter, there were no other visitors to
or on this blog within the time(s) these comments were posted.

<https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/
AVvXsEj8E3vcvcVWe9remnQUASfj-
fiPmSVquzYg2i3GMvSit4xwlzlfSlOsm-8tLcjdC7e2c5L0lh06Ol6umqOIqws1frzXycCPHEIn3PeUfGoQ-mmx3GfJOHtY2eyMzilVu6W-iBX3Ce0hIN3C/s1600/kelly_boggs_commenter.jpg>
This little exercise should serve to show people how these modern
"Baptists" operate.

The Louisiana Baptist Convention, The Louisiana Baptist Message and its
Editor, Kelly Boggs as well as the Law Office of Gregory S. Erwin,
L.L.C. and possibly Google just might find themselves on the receiving
end of a federal Complaint for filing false, malicious and abusive DMCA
Take Down Notices <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2007/03/
victims-fight-back-against-dmca-abuse.ars> as well as for harassment

If you're an attorney who would like to handle such a complaint then
please contact us at therapidesnote@gmail.com
<mailto:therapidesnote@gmail.com>

You may view the Take Down Notices here <http://www.chillingeffects.org/
dmca512c/notice.cgi?NoticeID=66554> here <http://
www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512c/notice.cgi?NoticeID=66619> and here
<http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512c/notice.cgi?NoticeID=66658>.

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    Thursday, March 17, 2011


      baptist message: louisiana college responds to gannett/the town
      talk's 20 february 2011 aramark facilities study report <https://
      therapidesnote.blogspot.com/2011/03/baptist-message-louisiana-
      college.html>

UPDATED 7:58 am cdt friday 18 march 2011
UPDATE: 8:50 am cdt friday 18 march 2011
UPDATE: 9:06 am cdt friday 18 march 2011
UPDATE: 9:31 am cdt friday 18 march 2011
UPDATE 11:11 am cdt friday 18 march 2011
UPDATE 8:47 am cdt wednesday 23 march 2011ars technica: "copyright troll
righthaven achieves spectacular 'fair use' loss" <http://
wesawthat.blogspot.com/2011/03/ars-technica-copyright-troll-righthaven.html>

KELLY BOGGS AND LOUISIANA BAPTIST MESSAGE DEMANDS WST... <http://
www.wesawthat.blogspot.com/> TAKE DOWN ARTICLE SCANS

now here is an interesting and apparently ongoing email exchange we have
been having with kelly boggs, editor of the [louisiana] baptist message:

from Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
to wesawthat@gmail.com
date Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:47 PM
subject Baptist Message article

I was alerted to the fact that you had posted a scan of a recent Baptist
Message article on your website. I visited your site and found the
information was accurate. Since you have posted the article without
permission from the Baptist Message you are in violation of copyright
law. Please remove the scan immediately.

Thank you for you cooperation.

Respectfully,

Kelly Boggs, Editor
Baptist Message
====
From: wesawthat@gmail.com
To: "Kelly Boggs" Kelly@baptistmessage.com
Subject: Re: Baptist Message article
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:21:57 -0500

thank you for your email. the scans in question are posted under
including but not limited to 17 usc section 107 of the copyright law
limitations on exclusive rights: fair use. the scans in question are
offered "for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting,
teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or
research, is not an infringement of copyright."

thanks again for your email.
====
from Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
to wesawthat@gmail.com
date Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:41 PM
subject Re: Baptist Message article

Sorry, your interpretation is incorrect. I've dealt with this very issue
before.

I really don't want to get our lawyer involved in this issue, but if the
scan is not removed, you will leave me no recourse.

Please remove the unauthorized, copyrighted scans of the Baptist Message
article from your website.

Respectfully,

Kelly Boggs, Editor
Baptist Message

Sent from Kelly's iPhone
====
from Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
to wesawthat@gmail.com
date Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:44 PM
subject Re: Baptist Message article

By the way, using "portions" or "excerpts" falls under fair use, not
entire works - for any reason or in any setting.

kb

Sent from Kelly's iPhone
====
from wesawthat@gmail.com
reply-to wesawthat@gmail.com
to Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
date Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:58 PM
subject Re: Baptist Message article

hi there. that might be true under los angeles times vs free republic
however in that case free republic was reproducing thousands of the
times news articles.

even if you file suit you will have to use those scans in the suit and/
or i can use the scans as an exhibit as well and guess what - court
filings are protected under fair use:see shell vs devries and also
religious technology center vs wollersheim and jaartech vs clancy for a
few examples.
====
from Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
to wesawthat@gmail.com
date Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:33 AM
subject Re: Baptist Message article

I never said anything about filing suit against you. I'm quite sure
Google has a much better understanding of copyright law than you do.

I have been more than patient. I'll ask one more time. Please remove the
copyrighted images of the Baptist Message from your blog.

Kelly Boggs, Editor
Baptist Message

Sent from Kelly's iPhone
====
from wesawthat@gmail.com
to Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
date Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:30 AM
subject Re: Baptist Message article

hi agaiin. please explain with specificity where in the copyright law
those scans are in violation of;

also ive looked all through the baptist message publication -- page 2
down at the bottom for example and nowhere do i see a statement saying
that anything in the baptist message is copyrighted. i dont see a
copyright notice on any other page either nor do i see a copyright
symbol anywhere within the baptist message whatsoever. i have bad
eyesight so its entirely possible that ive missed it please direct me to
that copyright statement etc;

if you contact google and have those scans or my blog or account harmed
in any way without cause then you are opening yourself up to being sued
by me.

thanks again for your email
====
from Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
to wesawthat@gmail.com
date Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:36 AM
subject RE: Baptist Message article

Your response reveals that you have no understanding of the finer points
of copyright law.

If Google takes any action, you will need to take that up with Google.
Google owns the site and will determine whether or not terms of their
contract have been violated. All anyone can do is alert Google to
possible violations. Google’s legal team will be the final arbiter.

Kelly Boggs, Editor

Baptist Message

Alexandria, Louisiana

(318) 442-7728
====
from wesawthat@gmail.com
to Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
date Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:06 AM
subject Re: Baptist Message article

hi again. so it seems that you're saying that you really dont believe
that there is a copyright violation -- you just dont like that the scans
were posted online so you're going to complain to google about it and
let them figure it all out?
====
from Kelly Boggs Kelly@baptistmessage.com
to wesawthat@gmail.com
date Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:30 AM
subject RE: Baptist Message article

I have deadlines looming, so this is my last response.

I believe there is a clear-cut violation of copyright law. If I owned
the site on which you operate, I would ask you to remove the scans. If
you did not, I would terminate the blog. However, I do not own the site,
Google does. As such, anyone can alert Google any time concerning an
alleged copyright violation. It is then up to Google to act. Google’s
action or inaction, then becomes a new set of circumstances.

Kelly Boggs, Editor

Baptist Message

Alexandria, Louisiana

(318) 442-7728
====
<http://wesawthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/
baptist_message_17march2011_lc_responds_to_aramark_study_town_talk_story_screengrab.jpg>an anonymous and kind person has sent us the scan all on one page -- click here <http://www.scribd.com/doc/51051636/Bapt-Message-17-March-2011-LC-Responds-to-ARAMARK-STUDY> to view/download from scribd

or
click here <http://wesawthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/
bapt_message_17march2011_lc_responds_to_aramark_study.pdf> to download
one page .pdf [3.10 mb]

====

----ORIGINAL POST----

this response from louisiana college appeared in the 17 march 2011,
volume 126, issue no. 6 of the baptist message which arrived by postal
mail today.

unfortunately, the page was too large to take in one scan. so, unless
and until we find someone with software that can combine the two images
and at a high enough resolution to read you will have to click back-n-
forth to read the whole thing. this is annoying we know and apologize.
see above.

alternatively, you can click here <http://www.baptistmessage.com/
node/7168> to read it from the baptist message online!

the aramark study in question as well as gannett/the town talk's 20
february 2011 article are included below.
www.baptistmessage.com/node/7168 <http://www.baptistmessage.com/node/7168>
====
<http://wesawthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/
louisiana_college_aramark_facilities_report_screen_grab.jpg>click here
<http://www.scribd.com/doc/50894121/Louisiana-College-ARAMARK-
Facilities-Report-2010> to view from scribd or click here <http://
wesawthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/
louisiana_college_aramark_facilities_report_20101.pdf> to download
sixty-seven page .pdf [8.57 mb]

====

<http://wesawthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/
gannett_towntalk_20february2011_louisiana_college_story.jpg>the gannett/
the town talk 20 february 2011 louisiana college story click here
<http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/20110220/NEWS01/102200329/> to view
from the town talk website or click here <http://
wesawthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/
town_talk_20february2011_lc_story.pdf> to download four page .pdf [560 kb]

====
related posts


  * concern for louisiana college <http://
    wesawthat.blogspot.com/2011/03/concern-for-louisiana-college.html>

  * louisiana college trustee heath veuleman responds to louisiana
    college concerns <http://wesawthat.blogspot.com/2011/03/louisiana-
    college-trustee-heath.html>

  * save our lc message board taken down <http://
    wesawthat.blogspot.com/2011/03/save-our-lc-message-board-taken-
    down.html>

 

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    Thursday, August 2, 2007


      Utility Bill Comparison <https://
      therapidesnote.blogspot.com/2007/08/utility-bill-comparison.html>

In the July 31st 2007 Alexandria City Council Utility Committee Meeting,
Acting Utility Department Director Marcus Connella, presented a utility
bill comparison between Alexandria and Lake Charles, Monroe and Pineville.

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AVvXsEjhwIppdAbmEh86hsvSmc0KvdmiWMysIigsa4mZr8Bi9lOSfVYAUx_QEuTf3Kyq266FJqThyzKp_JA6iXQTP4pwndnfdw82D_smY3-4v2gXAW8nLlVLkg820XW0I-Zyp4DGi-eFaGHdet1-/s1600-h/utility_bill_comparison.jpg>Download 15 page .pdf <http://therapidesnote.googlepages.com/utility_bill_comparison_31july2007.pdf>

Pineville Mayor Clarence Fields told The Town Talk <http://
www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007708010335> that the
presentation is "the most ridiculous comparisons that I can imagine"

Town Talk excerpt:

    Fields, who worked as a shift supervisor for Cleco prior to being
    elected mayor, said there is no credible way that Pineville and
    Alexandria utility rates could be compared over a three-month period.

    Pineville residents, who buy electricity directly from Cleco and
    natural gas from Atmos Energy, are in a completely different
    situation than Alexandria ratepayers, who must purchase utilities
    from pre-negotiated terms between Alexandria officials and
    suppliers, Fields said.

    "You just can't have those kind of comparisons because there are
    just too many variables involved," he said.

    Alexandria buys utilities for residents from a variety of sources,
    including Cleco, and returns a portion of proceeds for city operations.

 

Utility Committee

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    Thursday, July 26, 2007


      Pineville City Councilman Joe Bishop Charged With Felony Cruelty
      To A Juvenile <https://therapidesnote.blogspot.com/2007/07/
      pineville-city-councilman-joe-bishop.html>

KALB-TV reports "Pineville City Councilman Charged <http://www.kalb.com/
servlet/Satellite?
pagename=Common%2FMGArticle%2FPrintVersion&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352133532&image=kalb80x60.gif&oasDN=kalb.com>"

Joe Bishop is currently a Pineville <http://pineville.net/>City
Councilman and a candidate for Rapides Parish Police Jury <http://
rppj.com/index.htm>Dist "B <http://rppj.com/officials.htm>" seat which
is held by Steve Bordelon <http://rppj.com/district_b.htm>.

More information is available at the above link to KALB.com and on the
Alexandria Daily Town Talk website here <http://www.thetowntalk.com/
apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070726/NEWS01/707260336> or on the
Louisiana Way Forum here <http://www.louisianaway.com/forums/index.php?
topic=779.0>.

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5:00 Newscast


6:00 Newscast

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    Sunday, July 8, 2007


      Everett Hobbs Letter To The Editor <https://
      therapidesnote.blogspot.com/2007/07/carty-racism-has-no-place-
      here.html>

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AVvXsEiOsIW8jK0DsNgf2SOToIoY3ZkqkYYwWzEKqVBsyzcnmh_oZjM1XOSd08t52Apuk2NZRtcLQc9tslUk6svnMltK_kvJby3N38ZkJERvUG7uFeZedqmUByydXXOubwb0Ipn7PGKkKJjt3ZIV/s1600-h/town_talk_mast.jpg>Carty: Racism has no place here, President Hobbs <http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070708/OPINION02/707070307/1014/OPINION>

Good morning. Today is Sunday, July 8, 2007. You'll have to find
something else to read this morning. This is to Everett C. Hobbs,
president of the Alexandria City Council.

Dear President Hobbs:

Thank you for your kind letter of July 2, 2007. It is always a pleasure
to receive correspondence from enlightened thinkers, particularly the
carefully worded missives from public servants, like yourself, that show
the man behind the title and reveal exactly what motivates him to
cherish a position in the public sector.

In the case of your letter, which we shared Thursday with our readers at
your request, you have given the citizens of Alexandria a revealing look
at how you perceive the city and your colleagues on the City Council.
You stated your belief that you, your actions and the actions of this
august council are consistently and maliciously viewed by The Town
Talk's editorials through a lens that is colored by racism and fogged by
blind support for Mayor Jacques M. Roy.
Your over arching premise is wrong. We do not espouse, condone or
promote racism -- period. Just the opposite is true.

Likewise, we do not criticize or applaud any public official on the
basis of race, creed, color or what-have-you. Performance in the pursuit
of the public's interest is what draws our criticism and our praise.

Performance also reveals integrity. You say we "continually question the
integrity of the black city councilmen." That statement is wrong for one
reason -- the use of the word "black." Drop that word and you will
discover the truth: We continually question the integrity of the city
councilmen. We do that when we see moral and ethical lapses, when we see
actions taken that are unsound and incomplete, and when we see behavior
that divides people instead of uniting them.

Never have we questioned performance on the basis of skin color.

All of that is said to set the record straight on your over arching
point. It is not meant to criticize you, personally.

It also is said to endorse your correct perception about a cultural,
social and economic issue that, if not addressed, will stunt the growth
of this community permanently. The ugliness of racism has hobbled the
city of Alexandria as much as it has hobbled any community, which is to
say for too long and perhaps intractably. Our community desperately
needs leadership on this matter.

Your letter refers to a "total contempt for the African-American
community and its elected representatives." That says something
important about how you see the city. You see a black community with its
own officials. The implication is that there is a white community with
its own officials.

This may be a political reality, but only for those misguided office-
holders and candidates whose strategy is to polarize people to get their
votes. This is not a strategy that puts the community -- the entire
community -- first.

The last time we looked, all public servants are supposed to be
colorblind in the pursuit of stewardship and doing what's right.

That gets us back to our support for Mayor Roy and his commitment to
lead the city in a new and better direction. Our support is not blind.
It is extended thoughtfully and conditionally. It is earned day by day,
decision by decision, and it is fully warranted.

As president of the City Council, you sit at the pinnacle of power on a
seven-member board that is supposed to set policy for one of the most
important cities in Louisiana. You say that "we do the best we can and
we hope with integrity."

No one here disputes that you are, in fact, doing the best you can and,
we hope, with integrity.

Paul V. Carty, executive editor of The Town Talk and
www.thetowntalk.com, may be reached at (318) 487-6370 and pcarty-at-
thetowntalk.com.
Originally published July 8, 2007

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    Tuesday, June 19, 2007


      Commentary On Central Louisiana - Week of June 18, 2007 Open
      Thread <https://therapidesnote.blogspot.com/2007/06/
      httptherapidesnoteblogspotcom200706comm.html>

Video banned by the Alexandria City Council.
The Alexandria City Council refuses to show this video <http://
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4453409416041532414> on Public Access
Television.

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