Who Were The Magi? David Livingstone Ordo Ab Chao Three Wise Men, Christmas & Occult History (Dec22)
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David Livingstone
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Christmas 2022
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David Livingstone, author of ‘Ordo ab Chao’, on the history and mythology of the three wise man, Magi, from the nativity in the Bible. Rebecca Holt on theories of the three wise men. David Livingstone on a centuries long Satanic conspiracy… Priest ….Great Reset is an evil system. Manifesto for Free People of the World –
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David Livingstone is my name and I'm the author of uh five books on the history
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of the occult I can start with uh the Dying God is the first one which is going to be uh which
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is largely treating the subject that we're planning to talk about tonight um
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it's uh basically the the history of the cult trading history of the cult as far back as I could do at least uh ancient
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Babylon and following at the French Revolution then I wrote terrorism Illuminati uh Black Terror white
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soldiers uh transhumanism history of a dangerous idea and most recently which is order up cow which is a six volume
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set well if you don't mind me just um picking up on one word with sort of
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trigger word you say there the Illuminati terrorism and the Illuminati uh I mean most people uh they they see
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this as a kind of crazy conspiracy idea um you know which has been made popular
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in things like card games uh and by Robert Anton Wilson in his kind of spoof
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books but that that there's really nothing to this right well there's two ways that you can
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view the term so the reality is that there was a there was a group a secret society formed in uh 1776 by
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um former Jesuit named Adam weishaupt Vice hoped pronounce the German pronunciation
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and uh whose goals was effectively something in the lines the lines of you know some kind of newer order
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um so what happened is that it was banned
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in Germany in Bavaria in particular in 1785 I believe 1786 77.
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and uh so for that reason uh Scholars mainstream Scholars have been leaning
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towards the the theory that they stopped existing it's a well-known fact that in
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his own words uh weissel basically swore that he was going to be able to revive his order in some other form and
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um the order did manage to survive uh in many places outside of Germany and
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ultimately um you know there's there's plenty of evidence that shows that the Illuminati
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were effectively responsible for the French Revolution of 17 1789.
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um that's a big uh a big assumption to make there can you give us an idea of what
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the connection is between these this German occult group a secret society that was allegedly
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um really extinguished by the uh German authorities uh I mean and and then the
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French Revolution which was an enormous uh I mean most people see that as a spontaneous reaction to the excesses of
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the French royalty yeah I mean we have to understand that the French Revolution there's two important Revolutions in
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Maritime so you know that we have to understand the era that we're living in we're learning we're still living in
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basically the tail end of the Enlightenment and the element of course was a period of the 18th century uh that was marked
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by uh a flourishing I guess you could call it of European philosophy uh
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heavily localized in France and in particular targeted especially at uh religion
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so you know the basically the the world that we live in today is a world that was shaped Journey Enlightenment and
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that is still you know the almost the entirety of the well-known philosophers
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of the time uh beginning with Voltaire in particular were members of uh of
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Freemasonry uh many of them in fact were also members of the Illuminati we have
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to remember the thing is the Illuminati is the is the name that's chosen to uh you know has become popularized to
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refer to the you know top level of the conspiracies but the reality is that there was many other organizations and
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that Illuminati was one of many uh maybe not the most important uh that were already developing branches of of uh
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Freemasonry also very influential was martinism in fact Mark I would argue
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that martinism was probably more important influential than uh the Illuminati because the martinist orders
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are the ones that did survive and serve and uh the act the leading actors occult
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actors in the world today uh do traced their uh Heritage in particular to the
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to the modernist artists so you know about the specific details about the the role of the Illuminati you
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know there's plenty of evidence that was already provided there's John Robison in this book that proof of conspiracy which is a good start but I'm far better is
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um barrels a book uh French historian I think it's a multi-volume book with extensive
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detail uh and uh you know it's far too much for me to even begin to summarize
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I'm just you know it's it's a well-documented history and it just it's
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a proof to the extent of the manipulation of
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history in modern times to what extent that idea can be sort of downplayed as
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being just a conspiracy theory I suppose if you're able to make something happen
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or something as big as a French Revolution and actually put out a very effective cover story then that cover
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story is reinforced throughout history it's very unlikely that people are going to get to the bottom of what really
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happened but you know you're talking a lot here about your cult I mean people sometimes link this I think quite
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rightly with mysticism can you just um explain what those two words mean and
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separate two um there isn't really a separation so
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um you know the occult is basically a word that's used by a western academics
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to refer to a particular uh Western mystical tradition
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so uh you know there's been even arguments of whether you can make such a distinction but there's a particular
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trajectory so because mysticism is is it's its own
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path there's um there there are difficulties in
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describing exactly what it means but it usually means some kind of uh you know experience of the Divine or spiritual
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direct direct disappearance with the Divine spiritual and so the occult is basically
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um you know that collection of societies and teachings uh that have sought
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mystical experiences um and so there's a particular
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history that's associated with the West it overlaps uh in many ways often especially with the uh the mystical
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traditions of the Middle East and sometimes of the Far East but the one that
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is prevalent here in the west is the is the Western version so for that
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basically you have to go back you can well tracing backwards uh you have modern movements like the New Age
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movement uh that stemmed out of the esophageal movement
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um founded by Eleanor blabatsky at the turn of the century this other I also mentioned the martinist uh these are all
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groups that emerge out of the early 18th century um as did Freemasons the Freemasons
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themselves originate originated with the rosicrucians the rosicrucians like the
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um Freemasons uh in many ways Trace their descent to the Templars
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and uh and so and the legend of the Templars is that basically they preserved a hermetic tradition or
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tradition of hermeticism which is supposed to be an ancient Egyptian uh mystical tradition that survived
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um since the early years of the of the first Millennium and um so that's
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basically you have a combination of hermeticism of astrology of gnosticism uh uh and I guess you could consider
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some influences of Sufism that's all sort of um
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cross-influenced each other to to contribute to the Western esoteric tradition well I suppose that's Brits uh
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we tend to look with a certain amount of apparition on the Phoenicians you know
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as a former big Naval Empire power I mean the British royal Navy
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um well it it they they kind of sailed around the world they'd stick their ships off of a uh the coast of some
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country and they'd shell people until they kind of did what they said it was a a very um you know kind of bullying
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thing but and the Phoenicians were similar in the way that they you know use trade as a way to get their their
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their talons into a lot of the say the spiritual life for example of uh one of
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the countries they were dealing with the British of course did that as much as they could with with China and the Opium
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Wars things like this so uh where do the Phoenicians fit into this tradition because you were talking about you know
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the the the Dying God book looking at tracing this right back Phoenicians seemed to me to be quite an important
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force in history yes exactly so there's two important sort of nodes in this
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history so there's first there's the the ancient tradition of the Dying God and then there is the 6th Century BC when
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That Dying God tradition was uh appropriated I guess you could say by
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the Magi of Babylon and that accepted the beginnings of the Kabbalah which is
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really as I mentioned to you earlier is where it all started so that's really the origin of the of the western occult
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tradition so that basically turned it so there's two ways of looking at it there's there's the legendary aspect and
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then there's there is truly historical aspect and so uh
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if you look there's there's some sort of semi-historical and some more fan you
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know um fanciful uh uh versions of this story but basically the idea is that
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um because the Bible talks about the sons of God and so during Before the Flood
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the sons of God came and uh basically interpret with the daughters of men and
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created or the Elohim is what they're referred to in the Bible and so it's translating English as the sons of God
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and they produced a race called the Anakin and so the Anakin were responsible for all kinds of uh violence
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corruption on the earth which uh led to God um demanding the flood
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and so uh modern interpretations of this have
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taken that to refer to the creation of the Aryan race on Atlantis
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but that's another tangent but just to give just to give you an idea of where that goes so what happens is that
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um the flood destroys corrupt Humanity uh but then
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um you get survival survival of the sons of anik as they're referred to in the
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Bible and uh so the story is that when uh
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Moses liberates the Israelites from Egypt uh he brings them back to the
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promised land a lot of the Land There was promised to Abraham which is part of the basic the basis of the the Covenant
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and uh when they enter Israel they are commanded to conquer the land
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of the Canaanites and a lot of their Affiliated uh peoples like the amorites
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and so on so forth and um so the the Israelites are apparently
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afraid because these people are you know basically frightful and they're described as the sons of annex so it's basically to say that the Canaanites or
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descendants of the Anakin so they were descendants of the Elohim and the or the
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basically the sons of God who are and it's there's no interpretation offered about what that
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means it's only what the Book of Enoch which uh doesn't appear until
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the first centuries uh BC and
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um I think it's BC uh which describes the sons of God at or the Elohim as
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being the fallen angels and the Fallen Angels these Fallen Angels support apparently not only interpret with
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um human beings but that's where they learned uh you know what was later called the ancient wisdom so they caught them all kinds of forms of magic okay so
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what you're implying here is that these guys survived the flood so I'm not applying anything I'm just
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telling you what Legends are believed okay so yeah right so so this so so this
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is the story to account of how the occult tradition was introduced to humanity to to attribute It ultimately
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to the Fallen Angels so this is the occult interpretation of History the reality is so first of all is that when
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the Jews when the Israelites were uh returned to
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uh the Promised Land another part of the requirements was that they they were forbidden to worship
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the gods of the Canaanites and those gods were mainly two it was Bell and
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start his wife sister spouse astarted and ultimately they were part of a of a
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trinity that consisted of el the father God and his wife his spouse which was
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the goddess astarte and their son was about so Belle was at the same time
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um he also had a basically a relationship with his effectively ordered his mother and his sister at the
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same time and so this Trinity basically the the um the the Bell represented the Sun
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and the start they represented the planet Venus and those two were always considered to be uh close together
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because the sun uh the Venus is the first planet to appear at Sunrise and
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this is why you know uh in mystical tradition they're always closely Affiliated and so
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um the Latin name for Venus is Lucifer
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so what you find is basically there this balance start to effectively a kind of like a single androgenous deity and uh
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what a lot of critics of Christianity like to claim is that uh he was false
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like most of the pagan gods supposedly face falsely uh described as an evil God
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by uh the Christian his Christian critics the reality is that uh academics
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will tell you that there's such a thing as what's called katonic deity and that's a god that is typically
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associated with underworld so in most of the Middle East you'll find these Gods you have um gods that are often
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associated with as I said the underworld and they're typically treated as evil Gods so Belle was such a cadog deity he
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was believed to preside over the underworld and the spirits that lived
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there so the concept there is that uh um he was the lord of the spirit of the
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spirits essentially I said or you know demonic entities whatever you want to call who were believed to be the souls
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of departed people so this is how this idea of ghosts uh has survived in our
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culture and that's how the idea of Hell came to be associated with
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um being a realm below the Earth because originally uh you know this uh Dying God
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has been referred to uh was always associated with the underworld and so do you find that this one dying God there's
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many versions of it uh throughout the Middle East um and the the there's variations on the
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story but typically the story is uh the same and it's usually default basically as the son he was believed to uh be born
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uh in December 25th and to uh die in Winter and to resurrect in the spring
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because basically he was worshiped as a fertility deity who was responsible for the life cycle of uh nature and the the
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the the the cultivation cycle so this is why typically because he was
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associated with fertility uh he was usually represented uh with a phallus
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and uh so this is how uh in his Egyptian version he was represented that he was
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Osiris and he was typically represented with the novelist and
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um what else can I tell you so basically this was the fundamental rituals that that were associated with it so again
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um the the there were magical rituals that were performed in the worship of Mal and
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these are called aperture Pig um uh it's a kind of it's kind of magic it's called aperture for heck magic and
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what that means is the kind of It's a Kind of Magic that's its intent is to repel evil so uh the idea is in the
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simple dualism of these you know early peoples was that you had good gods and for good Gods you do good things and you
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have bad Gods these katonic deities and for them you have to do bad things you have to do bad things for them because
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that's what they're asking for if you don't do what they ask they might do something bad against you or if you make
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them happy they could do something mean to your enemies so typically what was involved in these
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rituals was um this is what's referred to in the
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episode of the golden calf in the Bible so the golden calf academics uh tend to
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identify the golden calf with the epis Bull and the apis Bulls is associated with Osiris and you know it's it's very
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common throughout again throughout the Middle East that the Dying God is usually associated with some kind of horned animal uh most often some kind of
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cow and often a goat so so the Bible talks that when Moses
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was up on the mount receiving the Ten Commandments the the Israelites gathered their jewelry and
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formed this Idol that they worshiped in the form of pagan revelry as it's
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described and then the the what's implied there is that um uh it there's what's usually
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associated with these rituals is that uh there is some kind usually there's some
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kind of um intake of toxicants and then there's uh dancing and loud
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music and unfortunately uh what was commonly practiced was the slaughter of a of an infant child
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which again is a form of aperture Pick Magic because you know the the most evil act you could do to kill an innocent
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baby so this is sorry to interrupt you but there was a tremendous amount of
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evidence now that the Phoenicians were well into this that these exactly they they were doing this child sacrifice in
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fact that they would mingle bones of sacrificed animals with bones of uh
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sacrificed children um and so you know as Traders they obviously tried to keep a lot of this
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stuff secret from the people they were trading with but they had a most definite child sacrifice cult as part of
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their culture absolutely so the the it's referred to in the Bible as the the
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as the passing the children through the fire of malach so Malik is effectively another name for Bell
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um uh and he's identified with Saturn and that's why the early Babylonian festivals were dedicated to Saturn
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they're called I think the zagmukh festivals it was a 12-day festival and so what happens I'm going to give you
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going to the detention here before we come back but just to see where this goes so basically um that Babylonian Festival became
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what was involved is there was a 12-day festival a revelry where the rules were reversed and um
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so that the servants uh would take on the roles of the Masters and the Masters would take on the roles of the servants
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and was kind of you know a playful uh interchange where the you know the the the the servants could joke around and
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give their masters all kinds of ridiculous tasks to perform and things like that it was supposed to be you know a festival but what it was supposed to
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end in was this was the killing of the king um and so this James Fraser is the one
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who's explored this in the most detail as far as I know and this is where uh
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because the king is the living embodiment of the sun god or the Dying God and so if he if ever he becomes
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frail uh then uh there was believed to have been a danger that you know the
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life of the crops could be threatened so he had to be replaced so um so usually he was killed to be
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replaced by you know a more virile uh successor and what James suggests is
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that these early um sort of uh the these um
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um this early Saturn Festival was designed to because what would happen is
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that a a king of fools would be elected
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um as the king of sort of you know this this swapped uh uh reverse relationship and then he would be slaughtered instead
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of the king at the end so what happens again of this 12-day celebration in Roman times became the saturnalium
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and then that's afternalia uh evolved in two directions it involved
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into the Mardi Gras festivals uh and carnivals around the world and as well as uh Christmas which then as well
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appropriated the um the date of December 25th as the as
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the birth of Jesus when of course that it's not known what day he was born on
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so back to the Phoenicians um so what happens is as I said so this is
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the cult that the Jews were told to stay away from but they did the opposite they
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completely immersed themselves into it and so what happens is that the story of the Bible basically from the uh from The
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Exodus of Egypt down to the to the Babylonian captivity in the 6th Century
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so a period of maybe 800 to 1000 years was a period of constant
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um lapsing of the Israelites uh it became
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basically they had had they had veered away so far away from their actual uh
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Jewish religion to this Pagan cult that even the temple itself the Temple of Solomon was polluted with the Belarus
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elements of the Pagan cult and so effectively what I'd argue is
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that um the Jews the Israelites have sorry to say would have been indistinguishable
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from the people around them because you know in in terms of culture and ritual
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practice it would have been identical to that of the candidates that's why when you look at the descriptions uh by
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Herodotus of the Phoenicians he describes them as being a descendants of a colony from Egypt and uh of practicing
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circumcision so what's interesting is as you say these Phoenicians now commanded the sea
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um and then they're the ones who are largely responsible for the beginning of the
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spread of these um well where they went they spread these ritual practices and one of the
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most important places where they had a profound influence was an ancient Greece and this is why uh you know even the
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alphabet itself is of a Phoenician origin um you know that's why the word alphabet
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comes from the three first letters of the Semitic alphabet and um there's a couple of books which
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who are excellent on this subject so you know I recommend two two Scholars who
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are as far as I understand probably the leading Scholars of of uh of ancient uh
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Greek history is Walter burkert and there's ml West uh Walter burkert wrote
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uh uh I can't remember the title of this book but Emma West wrote was called the East face of Helicon and they study in
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depth the extent of Phoenician and what they call Western influence in ancient
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Greece so this is where you have this two periods in Greece which are really important because this is how
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um this period had this Greece had such a profound influence as the so-called birthplace of Western Civilization when
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reality is the birthplace of the western a cult tradition so you have this initial period or if it's called the
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Archaic Period of ancient Greece which is dominated by Phoenician influence and this is where now you get the
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uh influx of various uh foreign influences and one very important one is
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the worship of Dionysus so now to get back to the story of the
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Israelites what happens is that um they because they they repeatedly lapse
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into the worship this Dying God worship of killing their children and practicing uh you know necromancy or or uh
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communion with Spirits magic and astrology all the things that they're forbidden to do
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and so there's repeated warnings that if they persist they're going to be uh punished for it so what happens is that
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the the at the time um the the the the Israelites were divided
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in two kingdoms you had the Kingdom of Israel in the North and the kingdom of Judah and the South so the syrians were
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the first to come in the early 700s and they took the entire uh people of the
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northern kingdom of Israel into captivity and they dispersed them into uh the land of the medes and
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that's where um the so-called they that's where the these ten tribes then became lost
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of the remaining king of Judah they were finally conquered by the Babylonians and I think the year was 596 BC
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and the majority of the population was then brought to uh Babylon
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and so this is the key of where this Story begins of the uh Magi
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let's just make it clear we have all these Christmas cows and things about the three kings yes um actually there's
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no Kings mentioned in the New Testament the kings are are talked or the three kings are the three wise men talked
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about quite a lot in Matthew actually there's your basic uh you know they come and have a chat with Herod Herod wants
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to know what they're up to uh and they tell him oh well we think that this um new king is going to be born at which
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point he raises his eyebrows and orders them to be followed although they or
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although you know we're not quite sure they did manage to follow them and then and then when they actually follow the
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star and find Mary and Joseph uh with little Jesus in the in his manger and
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they then have a dream which says no actually don't go and tell her where you are and they go back by another route so
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I think we just it's just nice to make clear who these Magi are that they're not actually there as kings in the Bible
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people um maybe you could start David by you know making out you know just describing who you what you think well what does
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Magi mean because that is that's what they described there was as in Matthew so this is the whole point and this is
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whole basis of of occult history so the the funny thing is that they are not really discussed in mainstream history
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so I'm going to read to you uh two paragraphs from Albert Pike's morals and
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Dogma that was published and I'm not sure probably in the 1850s approximately middle of the 18th century
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to show you how this occult version the so-called interpretation or understanding of the
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Magi is fundamental to the history of Freemasonry in particular and the Occult
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in general so he says to quote the occult science of the ancient Magi was
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concealed under the shadows of the ancient Mysteries it was perfectly revealed or rather disfigured by the gnostics
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it is guessed out under the obscurities that cover the pretended Crimes of the Templars and it is found enveloped in
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enigmas that seem impenetrable the rights of the highest Masonry magism was the science of Abraham and
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Orpheus of Confucius of zoraster it was the dogmas of this science that were engraving on the tables of stone by
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Enoch and schiz Moses purified and revealed them for that is the meaning of
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the term reveal he covered them with a new Veil when he made the holy Kabbalah the exclusive Heritage of the people of
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Israel and the inviolable secrets of its priests the mysteries of Thieves and
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Ulysses eluses sorry preserved among the Nations some symbols
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of it already altered and the Mysterious key where was lost among the instruments of an ever-growing Superstition
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Jerusalem the murderous of her prophets and so often prostituted to the false gods of the syrians of Babylonians had
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at length its turn uh lost the holy word when a prophet denounced by the Magi by
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the consecrated star of initiation which is Sirius came to rendous under the
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Warren veil of the old temple in order to give the church a new tissue of Legends symbols that still and ever
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concealed from the profane and never preserves to the elect of uh the same
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truths so so the key with the the the uh the
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Magi is that they were uh Babylonian priesthood and so conventionally it's
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understood to refer to the priests of the Persian religion of Zoroastrianism
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there was also at the same time uh uh another cult or priesthood that were
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known as Chaldeans and this this was the Babylonian priesthood so again these are
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this is a you know there's so much focus on Greek history and so little
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um you know the the the the the birthplace of so much of this tradition
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that this I the this history escapes most people so the chalde Magi as they
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were called were famous throughout the world as a sort of wise men so there's
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one book which is really important has been really important for me uh which is written by uh Franz Kumo he's a Belgian
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scholar and I've said this many times before that he's in my opinion the greatest academic uh at least for Asian
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history of the 20th century and what makes him so skilled is that you get a
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lot of academics these days that Focus really on One path of history and
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what made him unique is that he was very well versed not only in Greek history
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but also in Babylonian and Egyptian history so he was able to to trace the
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parallels that others missed so the important key here of what
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chemo demonstrated is that first of all you have to start with this notion that
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the Magi were Priests of the religion of zaraster what's called Zoroastrianism is
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a it's a Persian religion it's a well-known it's well known for having two Gods Aura Mazda and Aquaman
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sorry if I pronounce that badly who basically were an eternal Cosmic conflict
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and so what kimono points out is that the Magi that became famous uh
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throughout the world practice a number of doctrines and beliefs that had nothing
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to do with Orthodox Zoroastrianism there's another
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book by um RC zaner as well too about conservanism
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which is another book which uh explains the the this uh this diversion so in
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fact zener explains that the these Magi the ones who again who became popular
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because our word magic comes from major he explains that they were actually Deva worshipers so they were Devas were was
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the you know the in in Persian culture that was the name for demons effectively
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so effectively they were demon worshipers they were worshipers of ahriman the evil God
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so um basically what was happening is that there was a number of books that were
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circulating in the ancient world that were falsely attributed to zoroaster not
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only to him but also his two his disciple and his Patron so one two uh zazimus and the other one to his test
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space so there's no survival of these books but there's uh elements of it that
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survived in other people's books and that's how chemo was able to sort of partially reconstruct what have been
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beliefs of the Magi so fundamentally what you see is that they uh they worship some kind of Dying God in their
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case it was mithras or Mithra which is basically the Persian version of thou
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uh and a version of the goddess or I think her name was anahita which is the
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origin of Athena and uh they would have practiced belief
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in astrology numerology they believed in reincarnation and vegetarianism so now again back to Greece so this is
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where it's important is that in Greece we already have a sort of a Bedrock of of
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um this Dying God tradition that was existing there through the survival of various you know the the worship of
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dialysis and various other versions and um
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so what happens is that in the year I think it's 538 Cyrus conquers Babylon
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from the Babylonians and he releases the Jews from captivity
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what happens at this point is that the majority of them are allowed to return to Israel
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and to rebuild the Temple what they don't all return there some of them go to Egypt and some of them end up
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in Greece because what's important here is that the the Persian Empire uh conquered the
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entire uh area of what is today turkey and so on
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the very uh westernmost part of turkey was a was a region called a Greek speaking region
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called Ionia and it's well known that the first beginnings of Greek philosophy began
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there and again what historians don't tell you is that that those philosophers
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emerge under Persian occupation even though they're referred to as Greek
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and so when you look at if you look at the what they're called priests the pre-socratics the earliest Greek
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philosophers their ideas all hold elements that are similar to The imagine cult
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and in particular you can read um heraclitus and he says what's very interesting he
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gives one of the most damning pieces of evidence and this comes from the 5th Century BC and he says himself I can't
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remember I'll have to paraphrase it but he says the base that the cult of them he says that the cult of Dionysus
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was borrowed from the Magi and it's an infernal cult dedicated to the phallus
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so the cult of Dionysus was key because it was the earliest form of the ancient
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mysteries in ancient Greece so again this was the same dying dying
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God ritual that involved intoxication uh dancing and orgies and
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human sacrifice and um so from The Cult of dialysis you get
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the cult of Orpheus and there's all kinds of Legends here I can't remember I'm not going to go into
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all the details but I'll tell you the Orpheus was identified with a teacher or the same name or whatever
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of music of a man called museus and if you look at the ancient
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um uh writings Muse was usually identified with Moses and so there's so
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now at this time you'll find that there's numerous claims that the earliest Greek philosophers uh derived
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their teachings from the Jews or sorry from the Magi and sometimes from the
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Jews so in particular there's aristobilus who is a Jewish historian of the third Century BC and he specifically
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had claims that Plato derived his knowledge from the Jews so effectively
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what you're looking at here is that the Greek philosophy which now here's where I recommend a
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book by FM Comfort called from religion to philosophy which talks about this period of major Imaging influence in
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ancient Greece because what's been how important is that a significant transformation happens here as it happens in many parts of the world this
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is also the 6th Century which is often referred to by Scholars as the axial age because there was so much in the uh the
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the transformation of of uh world religions and ideas that took place in
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that century so what you have is you have this archaic uh you know
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more ancient um religious tradition in Greece
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which was dedicated to the worship of Genesis and these other gods which now gets supplanted by this new cult
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especially the cult of Dionysus but also the Advent of Greek philosophy and so
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that has been taken in our time by Enlightenment philosophers to suggest
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that the Greeks because the enlightenment was was the so-called Age of Reason so they were trying to see
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history as an evolution of Reason which is why they suggested that the Greeks were rejecting religion in favor of
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reason and they were abandoning Superstition in favor of of uh you know empirical thought the reality is that
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the Greek philosophers were actually adopting a new religion and that religion was the magician cult
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and that's why when you look at the fundamental teachings of the earliest philosophers particularly Pythagoras and
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Plato you can see that it was derived from Imagine teachings and this is the
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way that they reviewed ever since and this is why throughout history Plato has
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always been viewed as one of the major uh founding figures of the Kabbalah by
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Jewish cabalis as well and this is why now you can see why Albert Pike would claim this
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Heritage for the Magi so what happens now in short to tell you how this finishes
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is basically this magician cult um is basically uh early Jewish
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cabalists who were because the world at the time did not know who Jews were so
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they basically confused them uh as uh as uh Persians or Babylonians and so this
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cult then spreading more and more especially with Greek influence when Alexander the Great conquered much of
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the world that's when this uh Greek version of the Kabbalah then was infiltrated to various parts of the
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world most importantly the city of Alexandria and this really Alexandria is
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really effectively what we can regard as the beginnings of the occult uh tradition because this is where now you
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have this whole Confluence of all these uh different versions so now you have in Alexandria you have the influence of the
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Persian occult tradition the Egyptian the culture Edition which is known as hermeticism
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you have the influence of the various ancient Mysteries so the mysteries of mithras the mysteries of Sybil the
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mysteries of Isis the mysteries of Osiris we're all basically just variations of the ancient Dying God Mysteries and then
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you have the influence of gnosticism which is a um sorry let me step back then you also
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have the influence of of um of the Jewish mysticism
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which is evidence in groups like The essenes and another group affiliated with them in Egypt and Alexander in
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particular called therapeutic and then you have the
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um the the Greek influence which is called neoplatonism and that's how it enters the fold and then you have
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narcissism monasticism is basically the Christian version of all these various Cults but they're all
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they're all the the thing is that Scholars refer to this area as an era of syncretism because there are so many uh
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what they thought were separate elements cross-pollinating each other without understanding that they all had a single
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origin in the cult of the Magi and they were just basically branches of the same
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color so hermeticism was the alchemical sort of Practical Magic branch of
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of this occultism neoplatonism was the Theology and the ancient Mysteries were the
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rituals so can you sum up what the um you know
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most people aren't really familiar with Zoroastrianism what what did the Magi actually believe what was that the core
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of their um you know religion I I mean that's exactly what I explained
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so you probably had Magi who were actually uh legitimate Orthodox Priests
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of the religion of zorationism and then you had these heretical Magi who became popular
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throughout the ancient world and uh for them we don't have
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[Music] you know any concrete survival of of
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what they wrote or or left behind it again it's uh it's a it's a belief this
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system that has to be reconstructed so it's it's a lot of circumstantial evidence
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enough circumstantial evidence to make a case but it's it's not clear you get a
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better understanding of what they believed out out of the the belief systems that
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were constructed from what they supposedly left behind so we get a better idea from like they gave me an
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example the the the the one belief that holds all of these um
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um that's shared with all of the the groups in the syncretism in Alexandria so between neoplatonism hermeticism and
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gnosticism is the belief uh of the and
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put in the the deuce version was called Mercado mysticism and mercado mysticism which is what Krishna Shalom called
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Jewish gnosticism and he characterized as the origin of the of the Jewish Kabbalah
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so the fundamental belief is that um there are there are seven Heavenly
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planets or Heaven seven Heavenly gods associated with each of the planets and it's associated with the metal
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so you have sort of like a spectrum from the Sun uh to Saturn and Saturn is lead
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and the Sun is gold and so it's kind of an alchemical process where the Mystic
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has to proceed through the seven planets and he has to use the magical words to
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to pass sort of the the trials if you want to know some of this is referred to
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in the in the movie and on the Ghostbusters and anybody interested to understand how this works
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so you you pronounce these what are called Words of Power magical words to to proceed so you proceed through the
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seven planets uh so basically transforming yourself from lead to Gold When You Reach because the sun is the
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gold is symbolized by the Sun and then that's where you have Union with the sun in in merkaba mysticism the sun is a God
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who is described in the Book of Ezekiel as uh in his Chariot and this is where
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this is where the symbol is is essential because the Chariot God is barely sitting on a chariot held by four
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creatures and these creatures have four heads uh and they're standing on a wheel inside a
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wheel the wheel inside a wheel refers to the two uh the two equators so there's
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the sorry not to do the two orbits you have the orbit of the uh Earth on itself
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and the orbit of the Earth around the Sun so this is why this two these two circles were important this is how uh
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this is what was referred to uh in Plato's uh literature as the the Greek letter Kai which looks
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like an X and that's one of the ways that the uh the the cross uh came to be
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adopted uh uh in Christianity so
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um the four creatures again have four Heads This is the head of a lion the head of a of an eagle of a man and a
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bull and what those represent is the four sectors the four seasons of the zodiac
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each represented by a different sign so the bull is Taurus the eagle is Scorpius or Scorpio the the man is Aquarius and
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the the lion is uh Leo and and of course so this this four
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creatures this is a this is a concept that was taken from um The Chariot God so if you look in
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ancient Egypt uh God was the god Ra was pulled by a chariot uh
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led by four horses it's the same with Apollo and there's another important
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um Greek uh Greek myth his name is uh
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I forgot but it's another myth of a cherry which is all related to the Mysteries to the to the ancient
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Mysteries and this is why when you look in the Book of Revelation uh these creatures then appear again
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uh why why does this matter today still
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why it matters today is because when we talked about the Illuminati I just read you the quote from Albert Pike he
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explains that you know this so-called Heritage of the Magi is the rights of
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the highest Freemasonry so because what's that referring to is
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the the development of the cult of the Magi is in actuality the development of
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the Jewish Kabbalah what happens is that when the Jews are in Babylon uh
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basically this that captivity was supposed to have been a punishment that they sort of recognized well it was is
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it the kid they should have they should have recognized it as a punishment for their errors but instead you have this group I don't
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think it was the entire population who chose to reinterpret uh in a mystical fashion the significance of their
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captivity so um they instead instead of recognizing
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that you know the Captivity is a punishment for their worship to the Dying God they retained the worship of the Dying God
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and they assimilated it with the magical practices that they learned in Babylon
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particularly Babylonian astrology and numerology so this combination of these two
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Traditions is basically what created the uh well you know it's it's it's it's the
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birth of this particular tradition of magic satanic magic if I might say uh which uh manifested itself in Judaism as
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as Kabbalah and again manifested itself in Greece as a philosophy so when you
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look at the birth of this thing of this cult this is it everything that you can describe from that point forward is
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derived from there so so the the people the cultists who are operating today
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you know as part of effectively what's in luciferian conspiracy they are operating on this belief that they are
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uh you know perpetuating The Cult of the ancient magic this this uh this Cult of
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of magic which they believe is their means for uh bringing about
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and again it comes back to the Revelation because you know we've talked about this before that you know you there's the the
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effectively um modern occultists agnostic so just
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because they are they worship Lucifer as a true God doesn't mean that they reject the Bible no they believe in the same
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Bible and read it read the same Bible that the Christians do except they were they interpret it into reverse
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so they put just as much or maybe even more significance on the book Revelation because to them it presents the
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blueprint that they need to follow in order to bring about the end times and the means for achieving that end is
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uh Magic so you mentioned James Fraser there I
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mean the he talks a lot about I mean there's others that do a lot of this linking back the uh Margaret Murray in
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her book um which is the god of the witch is another one the witch cult in Western
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Europe what they do is they trace back into not so you know make back back into
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medieval and before that but they're looking particularly at Christmas as the
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big Pagan Festival of the year the fire festival and really nothing to do with Christianity at all no yeah it doesn't
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if you look at the history of Christmas is very interesting so I got a chapter in my book in volume two so the
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saturnalia survived as uh two traditions in the west you have the Mardi Gras
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festivals they have the Feast of fools and so what's
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the thing is that Christmas was many times uh banned uh in Europe uh one of
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the times one of the most important periods when it was revived was with Francis Bacon and this is Francis Bacon
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AKA uh William Shakespeare so they used to they used to perform
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um uh Christmas uh festivals at what are called the Inns of court and the Inns of
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Court were originally founded by the Templars and it's it's a it's a sort of like a
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festival that basically it's a it's a survival of the Feast of Fools and it involves what's called a lord of miseral
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and so the Florida missiles basically is is Lucifer and this is why it's a period
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of turning everything upside down and so this is how you know a culture
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Edition tried to hide itself within Christianity um disguise itself basically uh by
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giving itself a cover of being a Christian Festival by appropriating uh
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by claiming that it was a celebration of the uh worship of Jesus but I'm pretty sure that this practitioners knew very
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well what they were doing and what you have now is that in puritan England I am not sure how long it was maybe a couple
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hundred years Christmas was actually banned and then you get you get various people
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who are involved in trying to revive it and uh
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um I can't remember the personalities exactly but they're basically Santa so
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obviously Santa has nothing to do with Jesus right Santa is is not in any way well
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he's remotely related to he's supposedly Saint Nicholas but he's effectively the
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God Saturn of the god of the saturnalia and
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um so what's interesting is is he's he's often referred to as Jolly Old Saint
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Nick and old Nick is an is another word for Satan the people who are responsible for
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Reviving The stimulating the repopularization of Christianity were
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typically people who are associated with the cult and Satanism uh let me give you an example unfortunately a person like
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Charles Dickens who was a friend of people like Edward Linton who was really
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the chief Satanist of the 18th century and then I can't remember the details
52:52
unfortunately that are all in my chapter but uh it's basically that circle of
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people just to give you an idea it's really interesting because the the there's
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there's a period of in the mid-18th century uh that's called romantic a
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movement called romantic Satanism and it's a group of people who are all inspired by uh Milton's Paradise Lost
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so to keep people there were um William Blake
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um who was uh influenced by swedenborg belonged to the swedenborg societies their whole
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a lot of literature there uh done by Margaret chishard which is fascinating
53:35
and then you have William Godwin William Godwin is considered the founder of philosophical
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um anarchism you have his wife Mary wassomecroft who is the founder of
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feminine well one of the founders of feminism uh I've got a great article that I referenced in my book that
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basically describes her as a female Illuminati they were all friends with a group they
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were a friend they were all connected to a group I think there's called a Johnson Circle uh friends with people like
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Michael Payne uh Is It Michael Payne
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what's the exciting what's the name of the the American Revolutionary uh author
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Thomas Payne thank you Thomas Paine and who is as well uh listed as a member of
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the Illuminati so be these are all people who basically you know were effectively satanists and
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so this circle also included um um two authors two members of the skull
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and bones uh who were um responsible for the fabrication of
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the um Flat Earth myth so
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um you know the the idea has been popularized um it's almost taken as standard history
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that uh people in Columbus's time thought the Earth was flat nothing could be further from the truth uh it had long
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been known since the you know several a few centuries BC that the Earth was around global a globe and um but they
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were trying to create what was called the conflict thesis so this is a typical of the period where they're trying
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because this is how now you connect this group to the lunar Society
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um that connects um um Charles Darwin uh Thomas Huxley uh
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Galton because this was their way and of course stemming from the Royal Society
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which was a rose a Christian Society and their goal was to use science and to
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to create the argument the perpet the perception that science was in conflict
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with religion so they invented various uh you know myths of history and one of
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those that they admit they invented was the story about um the supposed
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um my belief that the Earth was flat in Columbus's time this story was uh first
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uh I find getting the story correct written by John William uh Draper
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and um so I think it's
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if I remember correctly it's from him that we get the uh
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they contributing to the Revival no it's not him contributed to the Revival of uh
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of Satan so you get people like um I think he's connected people like
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Nathaniel Hawthorne Nathaniel Hawthorne is another one because he he's another one who sort of revived the popularity
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of the Feast of fools or the the you know like the maypole ceremonies and those kinds of things
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um and um so yeah anyway so that's in that entire group so they were the ones who
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were really popularizing of course Charles Dickens uh Christmas Carol and this is from that point forward that you
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get um um yeah a return of the celebrations of
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Christmas and ultimately you know basically to where we are today well it's interesting I noticed that the
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Greek Orthodox patriarch um this Christmas in December 2022 has
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been saying what many uh I suppose uh Christian leaders have said over the centuries which is uh everything at
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Christmas seems to be focusing on people spending as much money as possible and and acquiring uh Goods
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um services but particularly physical things rather than seeing it as
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a spiritual Festival anymore but you know I I wonder David if if it's um just
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simply a bit of clever um deviousness by the original uh Christians
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um trying to Encompass uh the fire Festival in Winter because of course this was actually probably the most
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popular part of pagan culture that the people just did not want to relinquish
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you know a great party lots of drunkenness a bit of debauchery as well in the middle of winter and yet you're
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telling them to give up this you know important way of actually in a way uh you know cursing winter saying no you
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know we're going to have a nice hot fire um and and loads to drink and we're going to really celebrate you know it
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would have been very difficult to persuade pagans to say well no you're not going to do that anymore we're just going to sit in your Hut uh and I don't
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know have a reading of the Psalms or a mass or something instead yeah no I I know what you mean so
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there's there's two stories there there's a story of how the worship of Sal Invictus
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effectively is another form of mithras was appropriated to to Christianity so there's numerous ways that that
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um that happened um you know the the problem there is that a lot of that that the Christian early Christian fathers were influenced
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by Philo judeas and uh he was a Jewish scholar and He
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was largely responsible for uh attempting to marry Neil platonism with
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Judaism and so what's interesting is that follow judeos is also he's one of the primary
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sources uh for describing the worship of the therapeutic which were a group who
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were affiliated with the essenes so there's effectively two sources on the scenes there's there's um Josephus
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and there's uh Philo judeas uh indirectly just to show you that you
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know he was a devotee of the occult and so follow judeas is the one
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basically so he took the he took the Neil platonic Trinity which was taken from the Pagan trending and uh and he
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interpreted it in uh in Judaism and this is where he came up with the idea of he
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thought that they I think it would have been the logos uh identified it with this first begotten of God and so the
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the early Christian fathers people like Justin Martyr they following the example of phylogenous
1:00:06
they wanted to adapt neoplatonism to Christianity and that's how a lot of these ideas were incorporating
1:00:13
Christianity and part of that involved uh you know this is why um there's there were numerous
1:00:20
accusations from very early on about the various elements of Christianity uh
1:00:28
being borrowed from the Mysteries uh most notably the Eucharist
1:00:33
so eating the Flesh and the blood of them of the God was supposedly adopted
1:00:40
from the Mysteries the mithric mysteries in particular and of course so mithras
1:00:47
or Sal Invictus is his other aspect who was supposedly born on December 25th so
1:00:55
that's how that idea was infiltrating Katrina but then what happened what happens over the years is that you have
1:01:00
people I mean we have to understand this is why we live in a very different time where we live in a time when the occultists
1:01:07
have seized power so they no longer have to hide like they used to they still have to tie to a degree because Satanism
1:01:13
is still not popular but when the Christian church was in power it was a totally different story they would be
1:01:19
burned at the stake for going public with any other practice so they always had to disguise themselves so they find numerous ways to do that so
1:01:26
as like I mentioned you know practicing the Feast of fools would have been one and Christmas would have been another
1:01:32
and so these would have been people who were consciously uh satanists uh who
1:01:38
knew that they were disguising uh their practices uh to keep it uh hidden or at
1:01:44
least muffled and uh so I think what's happening in our time is that uh you
1:01:51
know this is why the Satanist of the 18th century they're the ones who are responsible for Reviving the uh Festival
1:01:59
of Christmas and effectively promoting uh this figure of Santa at the
1:02:06
expense of Jesus so now today we have two effectively two simultaneous vegetables
1:02:11
they've got Santa and you've got Jesus so some Christians will celebrate it as a Christian Festival celebrating the
1:02:17
birth of Jesus when the sort of the the popular you know um
1:02:24
uh the Layman the lay culture effectively and is not looking at it as
1:02:30
a Christian festival at all but more of a cultural tradition which involves uh
1:02:37
this figure of Santa without recognizing its origin because we have to remember that you know this is like the four C's
1:02:43
this is the four seasons of the zodiac the the this is why this is the four creatures of the of the of the Chariot
1:02:49
of Ezekiel the the Four Seasons that's why there's four festivals throughout the year which are the most important uh
1:02:56
satanic festivals and that's uh Easter uh St John's day which is the summer
1:03:02
solstice uh Halloween which is the uh um the Fall Equinox and Christmas which
1:03:09
is the uh the winter equinox so I think effectively what's happening
1:03:15
do you mean the winter solstice you mean the solstice and the equinoxes yeah so I
1:03:20
think what's happening now is you have the subversion of you know of this opportunity effectively to to uh to
1:03:28
inject this satanic uh culture onto the society uh unwittingly
1:03:36
well yes uh I mean I I think also it would be a good idea to look a little
1:03:41
bit at Aleister Crowley um because you know he's somebody who everybody kind of knows in the UK
1:03:48
they're not quite sure how he fits into all of this as as a Satanist I remember reading uh that in I think it was 1938
1:03:55
he was invited to speak at Oxford University to the Poetry society and the
1:04:01
vice principal got wind of this at the University uh and so sent him a polite
1:04:06
letter which I think was copied to the guardian at the time um saying well actually no you know
1:04:13
you're a Satanist we don't really want satanists coming and speaking at the University poetry society and they
1:04:19
addressed that to to him in Kent and and the um one of the
1:04:26
local websites near where I was brought up uh talked about Crowley as studying Freemasonry and locks bottom in Kent
1:04:33
which is also the site of the US ambassador's House on a private gated
1:04:38
estate uh keston park there which actually also had on its uh Eastern the
1:04:45
road up to biggin Hill which is I mean I know we're getting a bit obscure here but there was a satanic sign on the
1:04:51
outside of the estate you know just next to the uh road entrance in and out of it which is also gated
1:04:58
um anyway so this is the area where as a school child I used to mess around with
1:05:03
Nick land um and uh in the same on the on casting common uh and Hayes common and I just
1:05:10
wonder if you could say something about about land because he you know he's a very interesting guy to be at school
1:05:16
with and he is also as you've said talked uh in in a yeah he's done this uh
1:05:22
three times called the dark Enlightenment we were talking about the other um Enlightenment the um you know much
1:05:29
more recent one earlier on and uh I just wonder what you make of him because he's endorsed as you said this thing called
1:05:36
the order of the nine angles so can you just talk tell us a little bit about the land and the accelerationist the dark
1:05:43
Enlightenment and there may be uh and then maybe um you know take a look at the order of the nine angles because
1:05:49
they are quite a you know quite definitely involved most definitely in very serious terrorism and yet still
1:05:55
haven't actually been banned in the UK okay yeah well there's a lot there I mean
1:06:02
so you know what I mentioned is that earlier is that uh what I'm trying to do this is to show
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how I mean I think a lot of this stuff is extremely relevant today you know that it's not you know that this
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tradition is very under the surface as soon as you start scratching you start to find it yeah
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yeah so just to support what you're seeing those the the say that Scholars like to say that Illuminati was
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disbanded but they say that probably more influential was the order of martinism
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and uh so an important leader of the martinis cult I'm going to get this is why I'm getting to to what you're saying
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was uh Pappas uh French occultist and so
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he sort of effectively merged the traditions of of uh martinism
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and what's called synergism which was founded by a guy named French occultist
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and um um so most of the leading cultists of the time were affiliated with some way
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an important student of Pappas would have been running you know and um you
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have a camera roll over what years and I think in the 20s the 30s you have the the formation of What's called the
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fudosu it's like a Federation of uh synarkist and um and martinist
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organizations and uh this is where Harvey Spencer Lewis
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got his starting well start or exercise a lot of influences he was the founder of amark the American Rose
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Christian Society and out of there the sort of one of the the leaders of this
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uh Federation was Victor Blanchard who was the founder of um he was the Grand Master What's called
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the polar Brotherhood and so the this this these all these ideas
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this Nexus of ideas of synergism martinism and the polar is really the birth of
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the the true the truly influential uh occult tradition this is where you get
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all the ideas of the priority of Zion that were popularized by Dan Brown
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and the leaders today of this tradition uh I can name two of them at least uh
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one of them is Alexander Dugan and the other one is his friend in France his name is Christian Boucher who is the
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head of the Oto the French Oto which is um Alistair Crowley's organization
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so um this is so a large part of Dugan's plans
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is to uh is to create a conflict between what he
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calls hyperborea and a gartha or Atlantis sorry so he he looks at the
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East as being the the representatives of the hyperborean tradition and this is this is
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basically because his entire philosophy is based on the Polar Brotherhood
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and um which is against Atlantis which is represented by England and the United
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States and part of that strategy involves funding and supporting
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right-wing groups across Europe so much of the rise of the far right in the
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Europe in the last at least the last decade maybe 15 years or more has been
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through the support and funding of Russia so this is why now you get this
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proliferation of groups around the world and how they've evolved most recently is
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that's now we're finally starting to see examples of right-wing terrorism and so these right-wing terrorists practice a
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philosophy which they refer to as accelerationism and as you mentioned uh Nick land is one of the architects of uh
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that belief and this is how they're connected worldwide so of course Nick land uh has
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had an influence in the west particularly on Peter Thiel Peter Thiel
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is really you know pretty much the granddaddy of the Tech Community United States former founder of PayPal he's
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also a bilderberger he's the founder of palantir
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uh which is a is a CIA backed company which who helped uh Facebook uh sorry
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who helped Cambridge analytica Bridge uh Facebook data to uh to in support of the
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Trump campaign and um so yeah so there's a various groups and
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this is how now we get back to the Ukraine crisis because this is how um
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um one of the groups which is affiliated with this right-wing Network would be the azov Battalion and uh
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um this is another example of how the Ukrainian government has been funding and supporting uh not only
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um right-wing extremism but then what up you know overt neo-nazism and um which
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is a claim that Putin you know correctly makes towards them regardless of what
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his intentions are I'm not I'm not justifying his intentions I'm just saying that he's using the truth to his
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Advantage isn't it the oligarchs which are the main funders of the uh Ukrainian Nazis I
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thought you know you've got you you know you you're uh kolamoiskies people like this who uh I mean although the uh you
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know the Ukrainian government is facilitating this a lot of the money seems to come from these bizarrely
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Jewish uh oligarchs who have dual Israeli Ukrainian citizenship yes so I
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mean that's one in the same this is where you know Putin derives his his uh his power and this is how this is how
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that network uh you know volunteered to support the Trump campaign
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yeah do you want to just uh wind up by saying how how you think um best to deal
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with these people you know is there any solution to or is it just that we've just got to understand where who's
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pulling which strings yeah well to be blunt it's a centuries-long satanic
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conspiracy okay and the goal is to humiliate Humanity by duping them into
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creating a new order which is effectively going to be their own prison so humanity is being duped into building
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Their Own Prison and a prison of debauchery that's the ultimate goal and the ultimate humiliation
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so the thing is you know like I often say is that um because you know cultists like to like
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to treat the truth as something that can be hidden and they like to talk about you know the truth being suppressed and
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books being hidden and because that's how they operate because they operate not on wisdom but on information because
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for them ultimate knowledge is Magic and Magic is basically just a fraud and true wisdom
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you can't take away wisdom because wisdom is in every man's heart man or woman's heart
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but the problem is is that we are living in a world where
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everything there's an apparatus in place to try to get us to deceive ourselves to
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betray our conscience so we're all born knowing what's right and wrong but we are presented with versions of
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reality to induce us to again betray ourselves so particularly a version of
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History so this is why the whole idea of Western history is a fabrication largely to help people
1:13:38
westerners in particular but the whole world effectively to arrive at
1:13:43
particular conclusions to view the world a certain way which serves this agenda so what has to happen is that people
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know deep in their hearts what's right and wrong and they know that what they first of all they know what they are
1:13:57
doing is wrong they know that they have deceived themselves just to follow along with everybody else and they know that
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what's happening around them is wrong the problem is that they are afraid they they feel overwhelmed uh they don't
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see how their actions could have a consequence and that's because they don't have belief in God because God is
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the true power what they need to recognize they need to have more trust in themselves they need to they need to
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trust themselves to affirm deep down what they know is the truth and to stand
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up for it and to and to uh to believe that they are not alone because it's not
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about what they can do or any group of them can do it's entirely they can rely
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on God God is the ultimate power no matter what these uh luciferian what
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kind of power these luciferians accumulate it will never be uh not even
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a spec compared to the enormous power that God can wield and that's ultimately
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what this purpose is we're here effectively to discover just that to recognize that you know what we we need
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to do is we need to discover the truth so people need to read they need to study they need to understand what's going on and they need to share that
1:15:14
information to wake up other people we need we need a critical mass of people we need a in a site and a group a number
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large enough to be able to oppose uh the agenda uh
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and you know we can never be afraid of how much power they've accumulated we have to recognize that God is waiting
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for us to recognize that we can only do it through him so more courage less fear more faith yes
1:15:46
okay David Livingston can you just uh remind us where people can go and find your latest book online and and can we
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get paperback copy or hardback copy of it you bet thank you all right so my
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website is ordo.ca uh that's where you'll find online so my
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six volumes you'll see there's a menu at the top one two three four five six for each from there you see all the
1:16:11
chapters of each of the of the volumes so you can read the book online or from
1:16:17
the home page from any page you'll see there's links to buy my book on Amazon
1:16:24
so that's a paperback version or a Kindle version and of course Kindle doesn't need to be read on a Kindle
1:16:30
device you can download the app to your computer and you can read it that way as
1:16:35
well okay David Livingston thanks for joining us and a merry Christmas thank you same
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to you