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okay it's live okay in five four three two one ladies and gentlemen what's good y'all it's Chris Gary okay Gary Andrew Benjamin is out getting a swig of water Jay Wolfe just came down with a code but he's doing okay but yeah still collectively this is the we are rising podcast where we talk about all things about the rising fighting Federation or in essence we just tend to shoot the [ __ ] you can check us out on Twitter respectively I'm at Chris gary92 Jay Wolfe is at j a y y o f one Andrew was at a Benja one and the show handle is at we are rising pod that's w-e-a-r-e-r-i-z-i-n-p-o-d all in one word and if we tend to get off our sound I mean get off our soap box and get back into the audio swing at the things we're available to listen to on Stitcher SoundCloud YouTube Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast from but still enough about me speed reading through this [ __ ] we're here to talk about probably the most important weekend that the rising fighting Federation has almost ever had in its seven year history and that is coming up this weekend September 24th Market calendars it's gonna be live on fight TV it's going to be live on multiple different networks around the world I think 110 and I mean I think like 80 in total and 110 different languages still though is the international phenomenon known as Super Rising and Verizon 38 also known as Mayweather versus asakura and I know guys y'all were basically excited from the get-go that this fight was even gonna go down that this event was even going to go down that hell it was even going to be shown internationally but what are y'all thoughts about it to clarify rise of 38 or supervising or do you mean collectively ah thank you James unfortunately unfortunately we know the supervising cards only going to be shown in some cases the Mayweather osakura fight will be shown but still it's an international phenomenon because Verizon's at least getting some type of you know a boost to popularity because of it oh yeah I'm super excited for this I mean this is like like Jay Chris was saying it's gonna be one of the biggest weekends in rise in history right here another Mayweather exhibition bout versus Mercure azakura 155 pound power puncher I mean maybe with underestimates them you never know Mercury could knock them out and give him 50 and one that's what we're hoping for but the big thing is is that they're they're combining Super Rising and ryzen 38 into one card so they're and they're having it on DirecTV this time just like a throwback to the almighty Pride FC when they were on DirecTV so I'm super excited for this I mean they have some absolute bang Fest matchups and they're starting off the ryzen 38 card with the absolute Banger I mean just pretty much obviously guaranteed violence Fest it's going to be Yuri O'Hara versus Luis Gustavo I mean they both of those guys have been have shown that they can they know the superior rule set and I mean eurohara himself as you know those past several fights has ended by Soccer kicking Stomps I'm mean how freaking awesome is that and that's why they're putting right off the kick off the bat for this 38 car so they're like Jay Chris was same this card is is geared towards International audience that's why it's starting early at 8pm Pacific 11 p.m eastern time and it starts with the Floyd Mayweather card which they call Super Rising it's only got four bouts and they wisely combine the pay-per-view to have include a ryzen 38 card afterwards after an hour intermission and that's and they're kicking it right off with yuriohar versus Luis Gustavo and I'm just I'm just so excited because you know Mayweather commands attention you know Floyd Money Mayweather He commands attention and you know there's going to get be some eyeballs on this card and I just can't wait for the fans to see the superior rule set in action because I mean you guys know dude the past several epic risings have at least one fight out of every card has had finished via Superior rule set with Soccer Kicks or Stomps or something like that I mean it's just in every single car now the fighters are getting more and more acclimated to the superior rule set so I can't wait for the fans to see it I can't believe it's back on DirecTV and back on fight TV I mean Drew you were saying that uh you don't know if it's it's for sure if it's a one-off or no I don't think it's a one-off I prefer to have hope that it's not I think that the uh fight TV is their new online platform and what I'm hoping for is that they're going to be on DirecTV as well for like the big cards for like maybe like the New Year's Eve Bellator collaboration event you know I mean just it's just a really exciting time right now for epic Rising I just can't wait for this week it's gonna be so much fun I can't wait to watch with you guys Jade I don't have hope for a lot of things and it all comes down to this it's because I've I've lost all opium ever since I saw Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull in theaters and when after we just had the match happen that they said was never going to happen but to carry Bruce's tension the kickboxing super fight that everybody we were trying to tell them for years to have hope on that one and it was going to happen and it came together it happened this year and was one of the biggest combat sports events of the entire year if not for the last freaking decade it was one of the biggest Combat Sports event if not of you know the biggest ever I mean it was it was absolutely huge they scored massive pay-per-view sales everything I mean so how can you have hope after that happened well that's the I think the match kind just happened because of circumstances I think CJ put it best he says that the pandemic hadn't happened if these promotions K1 rise and uh rise and collectively shoot boxing all collectively didn't have Financial issues because of the pandemic he does not think the pan the match would have happened and I would kind of have to agree because considering the difficulty that K1 and I'll exclusively put the K1 was was putting like the you know the new the whole neutral thing and all that [ __ ] and and what guess what I wound up you know it wound up not being neutral because it basically yeah it's akakibara all over it and uh Rising all over his uh kind of in directory as well so I I don't cocky bar was all over he made it happen yeah but remember the whole thing was that like I only had to be on neutral ground and it's like suddenly like now it's not on neutral territory or whatever and then you know you know the whole Fuji TV thing and all that you know with you know it was the main thing is that like you know I don't think it would have happened you know if everything was hunky-dory and some person hadn't eaten of bats in 2020 and caused all these issues I think I would have I think we would not have gotten the match to tell you I think it would have been gone down like a uh like a one of those you know one of those fights that just would have been a dream like Anderson Silva GST Tony Ferg khabib or I don't know I don't know whatever kickboxing equivalent yeah that I think attention would have immediately gotten the kickboxing I don't know I really don't think I don't think it would have happened it happened too many too many cooks in the kitchen too many cooks in the kitchen it happened and it was awesome so you need to have hope I'm telling you it's awesome and yeah but here's the other thing when you don't have hope the disappointment is less than like it's it's like it's like remember when they come on yeah as you know when you used to get Christmas presents uh Jay Chris when you get Christmas presents and you think oh boy it's gonna be a race car or it's gonna be a PlayStation and it's a [ __ ] it's a [ __ ] pair of socks like come on yeah either that or in my case you know I'm wanting like the new video game or you know like a subscription to something instead all I get is like a study manual or something that's why I always I always that's why you lower your expectations because if [ __ ] goes perfect [ __ ] is great uh it feels better and if [ __ ] goes wrong yeah you know what you were internally prepared and I've learned that ever since Kingdom of the Crystal Skull disappointed me when when Indiana Jones encountered aliens so that's why that's why I mean come to think of it I I was thinking that you were only like what 10 when that [ __ ] came out I can't do math what's 87 plus 20. yeah I was 21 I was 20. I was 21 when I came in like one of that came out yeah that's why obviously you basically it's like you grew up watching certain things as a kid like for example I just came off of watching an old school Rockets game on get playback shout out to clutch fans by the way and you know I was basically I mean basically what I'm trying to say is you think certain things are gonna you know be seen in your way but instead they just turned out so differently you know you guys think that I shouldn't be excited about this yuriohara versus oh no no you know get excited for the MMA card it's just realize that this supervising card even though it only got four fights on it which we're gonna detail in discussion and a few short moments for the craziness that come after this um as well you know the other thing is also is that you know if they're never on fight ever again then you know what it's like you know what they're back on fight for one thing uh uh you know so don't uh you know don't or DirecTV or whatever so you know don't want to be so successful that they're gonna be on there for the next year or two on fight TV and let's hope that it's successful on DirecTV so that they have all the big events but uh New Year's and and you know like maybe remember uh they just had an interview with Chicago's son talking about he wants to have four to five events next year geared towards the American Market North America market and he's gonna happen at this earlier time zone so that we can watch them where they start around eight o'clock eight nine o'clock and you know it's so I mean it's those are some good signs you guys I mean you guys I'm telling you got take a hit of someone's hope you I'm telling you it's it's looking awesome so I I can't wait dude it's gonna be fun there's only two important um things in the chat Anna are our biggest fan I think a guy who our biggest fan Anna says hello to my favorite people Andrew Chris and Jay Wolfe yes what's up Anna Banana how you doing thank you for listening Jacob Byers has a very important question he says if the show does 100 000 buys do we do we give the credit to Jizzy what do you think does dizzy get the credits [ __ ] no no yeah actually he would have part of it because remember at the weigh-ins or not the Wayans but the the initial press conference remember when he pushed Mercure azakura and that made like huge headlines because he almost pushed him off the stage and like it generated just I mean it would I couldn't believe how many articles was written about that so I would definitely give him a partial credit I mean but you know the credit goes uh Floyd maywe Mayweather because he he's the he's the like he always says he's the a side you know he's the one that commands the attention you know he's he's bringing the crossover appeal from the boxing crossover fans that are that are going to be curious about this event and I mean it's just I think you overstate the that's that that uh audience yeah I really do because I think the I think the Floyd exhibition train has sailed path I think the last I think the Logan Paul was a Logan Paul or Jake Paul I don't even know at this point Logan Paul Logan Paul I think I think that I think that was like Peak that was Peak Mayweather exhibition you know nobody cared about the Abu Dhabi or Saudi Arabia thing on a helicopter roof um this is just a Payday for him I don't think he's even said mikaru's name once in any like interviews or anything he just keeps on saying like my opponents you know so that could be dangerous for him because mikuru is 155 pound fighter with punching power okay and and if Mayweather underestimates him and just thinks he's gonna freaking just walk all over him I mean which he might I mean because you know he's a great boxer but if you underestimate some he could get caught and with one of the Curious power punches I I thank you sincerely I think you're sincere I think I know I I like if you're if you're working for DraftKings uh Jay you are not still you're not convincing me to put any money on Meeker at this point it is still clearly a fully fight I mean so when people just ask both of you I'll start with you jaywalk so okay I'm gonna consider these two separate shows they are so drastically different because one show is clearly better than the others in my opinion so I want to say why is do you think that rise that's super sorry Thrice of 38 is a better show overall looks like the battle show overall J wolf yes absolutely and I'm really happy that they made a decision to combine these two events into one you know and because I mean for the fans they're going to be buying this pay-per-view to see Floyd Mayweather they're going to get the ryzen 38 card as like a bonus and I'm really excited for them to see that because it's just I mean it's loaded with absolute bangers I mean and they're kicking it off with with just an absolute just violence Fest bang Fest I mean whatever you want to call I mean that that yuriohara versus Luis Gustavo but I have extreme high hopes for that that one's not an absolute Chris I'm sorry sorry sorry jay um yeah oh no I'm sorry I meant to say Chris Chris uh your thoughts which uh do you Rising you gotta agree that ryzen 30 the 30 looks like the better card overall right well you know qual quality wise you know easy for me to say I think that ryzen 38 is the better card because you know you got obviously the women's super animate Grand Prix and the co-main event spots ayaka hamasaki versus Sibu Park and Seiki is aqua versus Anastasia little tiger specs keeps good and you obviously got kyoji horiguchi in the main event which is going to be the main draw for the Die Hard fight fans like us not to mention the overall fight fans that actually care about this type of stuff but I think when it comes down to what you got more fights you're gonna hope to have more excitement and in a way you know you're just hoping that all in all this ends up being a good show period not just with the supervising car that'll probably get the bloggers and the Talking Heads talking about it win or lose drop a great point but before actually I want to bring up that point is for a second J um Chris sorry uh Jacob buyer says to be honest if Verizon wants to appeal to American audiences they need to hold events of Pride rules and not go to America unless they could get the pride rules and non-unify rules otherwise we'd watch one if you want to watch unified rules Asian MMA um and I agree with that because here's the thing you gotta have differentiate yourself uh when it comes to and you know like if you don't if you just wanted to watch MMA with unified rules and it's rising you're just gonna watch UFC or Bellator for the most part it uh it it would make no sense to like just watch a promotion that you're not familiar with that you own that you probably don't know most of the guys so that's what that's what Verizon has to sell if they want to come to America is they have to do the you they have to do the pride rules for soccer Superior rule set AKA Jay wolf and would you agree with that with that J wolf that that's what they have to do to differentiate themselves if they if they want to appeal to America and say this is this is we have these sets you can do this that they can't do anywhere else yes absolutely that is that is one of the main appeals of Epic ryzen is their Superior rule set that's just the most exciting most dynamic fighting environment known to man it's just it's just it's Sensational and I I 100 agree that you know they need to keep pushing to get those rules here but I mean it's you can't you can't blame them they try to do that for their Hawaii event but the commission was not allowing it you know but they they can there's several commissions here in America where they could go like Colorado Colorado recently approved grounded knees also they could try Oklahoma Oklahoma allows one eight-man one night Grand Prix tournaments okay so they might be more open to have the full Superior rules set you know so there's there's different commissions where they could go to here in America but you know they're right now they're starting off with Hawaii and you know they tried to have the superior rule set but Hawaii commission was not having it so what what do you want them to do say oh okay well now we're not going to come here no more no absolutely keep just just like the almighty Pride FC did in Las Vegas just you gotta you gotta up the card though you gotta put like an amazing car that like people are gonna be like because listen you know you had you had heavy I mean I don't mean heavy weights and weight but like heavyweight names like Diaz and go face off against gomi and then other people and other names as well uh I mean come to think of it you would have had even a mark cut versus Butterbean match up instead you got butter bean versus the late Sean O'Hare yeah yeah exactly you kind of have to like do an outside the box car or put like something that gets people talking to at least make up for that I would say because remember from the presser when they were talking about this Hawaii event they were saying that there was going to be a collaboration with Bellator so I mean I think Scotty coaching to send over some Bellator Fighters and it's going to be it's gonna be awesome so I mean I agree with you that it would be 10 times better if it was with the superior rule set but I mean since the Hawaii commission won't allow that this time then just do it you know do it regularly with the unified rules have a collaboration event put it in a cage you know because that's what American Odyssey used to and then just keep going oh no no but you actually probably agree um uh tip or your buddy tief says at minimum keep it in the ring in the U.S and that's what now that would also be a factor that you I think you know if you have the ring you're saying This Is How We Do MMA this is not the cage this is not your usual yeah whatever um so I think that's I think that also can be an appealing Factor because more you say while people are used to MMA and occasion year I think overall Combat Sports is the idea of a ring is more familiar you know with the classic you know like a boxing wrestling whatever and I think that kind of I think the visual of it as well is also would could be interesting to people you know what like what MMA in a ring I haven't seen that you know here you know let's you know let's try let's let me go see that or something I think that's also a great way to you know if you can't do the unify rules I mean if you can't do that the pride rules the pride rules yeah no absolutely do it keep it in the rain then that's if you want to keep differentiate yourself keep it in the ring you also do uh possibly do a one night Grand Prix you know Pride style that's all but they don't have to they would have to approve the commissions are weird they have to that's that's the reason one of the reasons why a lot of these people like a victim memory Victor had that had the uh the the torment and it was technically an exhibition because they didn't get because they couldn't get permission from that I think those from the uh whatever um Mission whatever awesome you're talking about the Phoenix tournament yeah and knows how they have it done again since because they because the problem with torments in America is that it's you know a lot of commissions will improve them also promoters are and we saw those with pfl and we saw us Bellator is here people get injured you know and also look deep as well people get injured all the time and so that's why like they are so hesitant to like okay they remember remember UFC tried uh remember try the 508 thing and the the five late finals ended in a draw yes we remember that yeah one of the fighters I think only fought once inside the Octagon yeah so I'm not saying I'm saying you can't do it but it's gonna be difficult well look the reason I brought that up is because Hawaii has so in the past they have had one night Turners Remember The Rumble in the Rock tournaments remember that was yeah that was years ago though that was I think if y'all remember well it was not just K1 rumble on the rock it was also Super Brawl as well for those classic MMA fans but you guys are talking about [ __ ] that happened ages ago and I don't want to say MMA evolved but MMA has a lot difference I mean remember UFC used to do his thing as well you know so this is a problem this is the thing is that and especially Hawaii because I knew I knew that Hawaii wasn't going to I think we I even said that I don't think that Hawaii was even going to uh uh approve Pride rules I think they were gonna I uh only go by Nevada state unified whatever so I if the like heard that they would approve it now I think one night tournament as high unlikely before we go into supervising I just want to say in the chat uh Jacob ire says have they tried running in Puerto Rico would they allow Pride rules there um I don't think they would mostly because first of all shout out to Puerto Rico they're currently going through some [ __ ] right now with you know the hurricanes and the flooding and all that so you know mucho mucho Amore to them but still though when it comes down to Puerto Rico yes it's still a U.S territory but also they got their own athletic commission too and considering the fact that the last time they had a major MMA show was all the way back in 1996 with UFC 8. I really don't know if they would be willing to do a show like this where or you know you got Rising rules even though of course you know there goes the thing with the athletic commissions again you're gonna have to deal with them too even in Puerto Rico I think combate Global had an event in Puerto Rico recently no no they didn't they tried to they try to by having Amanda but they never had an event in Puerto Rico San Juan or otherwise and so it sounds like unlikely listen if you said that last time was UFC eight there's a reason why UFC has not gone back so the likelihood is that probably Puerto Rico is not an ideal destination for MMA unfortunately and you know also logistically the reason why Hawaii so far so the Hawaii tourism board is paying for this you know that that's the reason why Bellator is there because tourism board is paying for Bellator and I presume potentially Rising uh to uh to come to Hawaii uh UFC wanted more money so Bellator said we'll take we'll we'll take less money Hawaii said yes so you know I don't know if like you know Hawaii is also just easier to get to from Japan you know yeah Fighters I mean a lot of people wouldn't want to go to Colorado or Houma or even anywhere for you know when Japan plays in the World Baseball Classic next year for obviously baseball but still the easiest way for Japan to get to the U.S is through Hawaii because Hawaii is closer to them than the entire Continental 48 which we are in all three of us um you know can get to uh no Jacob also asked what also what are your guys thoughts on gleet MMA bad idea or glorious or no geism I don't they will I don't know if you're familiar with gleats are you yeah yeah I saw this it's like a hybrid of pro wrestling and MMA I would I would say it's a stretch to even say a hybrid I don't know what to expect from it I think it's glitches are a very dry boring promotion in my opinion and I I don't know if it's going to be MMA or like pancreas style MMA where it's clearly a work but like I don't know or uwfi they've tried to do uwfi it doesn't look good because the guys they hire are not like Marshall like don't have any background and like that's stuff so it looks all I think honestly pretty terrible I know Chris you got any thoughts lead MMA bad idea or glorious and nokiaism well I think it's pronounced late like great you know just I pronounce it have been pronouncing gleet well yeah the name is spelled g-l-e-a-t but it's pronounced here like great but still though point of the matter is when it comes down to that promotion I think that I've heard of a few names from this side of the Pacific that wanted to be a part of the promotion obviously Alexander Quiet Storm are the first two Americans to join the promotion but still don't Quiet Storm I think that they're better off doing their current hybrid makes a professional wrestling and MMA if they ever get into MMA it's just going to be trouble for the rest of them you know yeah and also I don't even know how to watch the shows that's the other thing as well it's like they're on YouTube but like so sporadically I don't uh and I like yeah here's a thing nokiaism only works when enoki's behind it that's why I've I've come to learn nobody else you can't you can't copy nokiaism if you're not a Noki because he knew how to do it he knew how to give how to give things you know uh a realistic presentation where and like no [ __ ] behind it everybody else that followed has been like you know has it's like it's looked like [ __ ] it honestly has you know besides but these two receptions of like Rings or uwfi The everything else that's like that's try to do it mind's blood Sports I'll say mine is Bloodsport because Josh might have found it uh has looked like dog [ __ ] in my personal opinion um but so uh okay guys we got super Rising before we go into the card yeah on that point about the Hawaii event and pride rules yes I would like the Epic Rising people to just because they were got denied for the first try to to do the pride rules in Hawaii I don't want them to give up I want them to try again and see if you know show them footage say hey look here's the footage of where it's working in Japan look how awesome it is I'll tell you this Jay well you know what the easiest way is you know what just pay them [ __ ] off you know we they you know what it's not we've learned USD set the precedent that they could that has had like with Jon Jones and his failed trt levels and you know moving it to California for that whole show for the Gustav second Goose offset fights that there's no that no commission is not without immorality or bending the rules so absolutely so can we like yeah so yeah so you know what if I'm sakakibara I take the blackmail money that that I was saving for the next journalist I was gonna blackmail me and just slide it under the Hawaii commission and be like allow kicks please and then they'll and then and the Kawaii commission you know and they're in their uh and their lays and uh you know with all the tattoos will probably be like oh that's what they'll do why not absolutely pay them off on uh tribal land I mean it is like you know what here in in there's like a American Indian or a Native American land like that they they could do like remember like that's how the one of the tournaments uh that happened I think I think what you mean Jay Wolfe is Valor bear knuckle knuckled an event on tribal land in North Dakota as has you know oh wait a minute we got cheap to the junk coming in now oh teeth is uh doing the run-in deep can we hear you oh he just left but still though what do you what we mean Jay Wolfe is that you know Valor bear knuckle and down to five thousands black I mean dollar to five thousands byb promotion both done events on tribal land in North Dakota so but here's it Rising ain't going to North North Dakota not in a million years I don't care you can't convince me if they do I'll eat my shoe on a live stream or something listen if they wanted to listen if and also listen I don't think tribal lands you know they they they they go by unified rules as well because uh listen mohegan's son technically is trying to land yet they they recognize uh uh the unified rules as well you know I mean obviously of course they recognize the unified rules the same guy that runs the Mohegan tribe Department of athletic regulation Mike mazuli by the way is the same guy God runs Bellator events when they go outside the country okay well look look they've done eight man one of the Grand Prix tournaments on tribal land the the shine fights eight man one night Grand Prix that Drew Fickett won yeah again these are these are years and years ago you said Drew fickets that's like 200 years ago come on but uh we got uh we got a running we got Tita Jung tip can you hear us what's up guys can you hear me yeah yes Steve what's happening y'all thanks for letting me jump on man I took lunch early so I could jump on and talk what have you got the plug my friend are you watching ryzer this week are you watching or all of your money going to Bellator man who versus Romero we're doing both well yeah that's a daytime card I'm actually gonna do both this week uh not they're on fight right yes they are and also um on regular terrestrial pay-per-view as well pay-per-view oh I see yeah I'll probably I'll just get the fight app again I have an account for them so that's really good that they're back yeah I'm definitely hyped from Bellator I I do have the money for the for that pay-per-view I couldn't do the Canelo Triple G fight but uh because I just got tickets for yeah there's a [ __ ] thing then listen if you wanna you go so you can just watch two old men two bums fighting outside uh your local 7-Eleven and that would have been that would have suffice it's probably more exciting fight as well oh my goodness well yeah I got tickets for the the Grand Prix we should do a meet-up I'm going to Mohegan Sun and I'm actually sitting in the good seat no shitty seats this time wait for the show at the end of the year right yeah man sabatello stops and mix I might be I think I'm gonna be new I'm gonna be in UK that time so I won't be able to meet you in person Jay uh deep unfortunately I hope you enjoy the show I'll drink for the pair of us that night it's only five totally fine I hope you do I hope you do and by the way you're doing a thing of jaywalk this week right tomorrow what is it 5 p.m my time 2 p.m your time yeah or or I thought it was three 6 p.m your time but if you want to do 5 p.m we'll do that so no six is fine that lets me sleep a little longer I'm down I'm down for that okay so six six pm Eastern tomorrow I have a Bellator Dublin preview and we'll we'll sneak in some talk about epic Rising on Saturday maybe I'll do a running during that yeah yeah Drew come on during that show that'd be awesome you might also add me in there as well just for a brief run-in actually yeah if you all did boxing ask for expert because you do all of your boxing things you know what [ __ ] it I don't care it's my [ __ ] show we're gonna work backwards so you know what we're gonna work from Top Down super rise and Floyd maywether Mika razakura exhibition belt second I don't even know what it is at this point but other I ask you cheap who wins and why is it Mayweather foreign yeah you have to favor Floyd but um he's gonna play around but if he gets caught um hit hard then he'll stop playing around like to give attention although tension's a tiny person compared to the already tiny Floyd so this will be a better fight than the tension one but uh yep he cracks and Floyd will responds we may see a finish although it's unlikely that there's any question about who would be getting finished but uh I'm looking forward to it man it's weird I'm cool with weird Floyd's not ranked anymore he's not getting in the way of anyone's opportunity he's just doing his thing so I love this one this is my favorite of his exhibition so far really oh my God you're you're really praising this much more than I thought you would Jay Wolfe I know you're gonna praise it so go ahead James give us your thoughts Mayweather mikaru oh I love it man this is bring I've already seen have you guys seen tv ads for this yet I mean I'm loving the attention this is bringing for the Epic rise and I'm just I'm loving how they combined a 38 card so that all the fans that are going to be here for the Mayweather Mercurial exhibition belt they're going to see a just an absolute Stellar ryzen 38 card and they're kicking it off with the absolute bang Fest the Euro Harvest Luis Gustavo and like like you guys were saying you know the headline by kyojihoraguchi you know who's nice enough that Scotty cokes from Bellator let him come over to headline because he's still under contract with Bellator right now yet he's headlining an epic ryzen 38 on Saturday so I mean it's just I mean for the for the exhibition I'm looking forward to it because like I was saying earlier mercuro is 155 pound fighter okay is the power puncher so if maywether messes around and takes the sky lightly I mean dude if he gets if if he gets cracked real hard I mean dude we could see a huge upset but I I don't I don't think that's that's like a huge long shot I'm gonna be a dick I'm gonna real be a real dick because I'm also in a crabby mood I'm gonna ruin everybody's night can we like this idea that like Mayweather like oh Mayweather is not going to be like serious whatever he can get correct can we be honest this is that's not gonna happen that doesn't that has never been Mayweather's Mo and anything listen the type of thing as soon as he got hit by tension he was like okay you know what this isn't this is an exhibition balance I'm gonna hurt you now and the same thing 45 pounder that's fine pounder this is the Mercure is 155 pounder Okay so oh sorry guys no no teeth go ahead go team go ahead I was gonna say in this one I think I mean crew is going to push the action so like tension was a small guy Mayweather was taking easy but it's kind of like uh when the Great Jack Johnson fought Stanley capsule at the end of 1909 he was playing around then capsule did his famous uh just landed a bomb knocked Johnson down and then the fight after Johnson got back up the fight lasted about another two seconds literally he jumped up hit him with a monster and uh flatlined him so Mayweather's a little person but he's kind of like that he's good enough to play around if no one pushes him I think makuru will push him and he's gonna be forced to actually fight the guy because makuru is not a mate he's not a McGregor type sort of one-dimensional Striker although we'll have to see how he works with Justin's hands but uh I expect this to be pretty good and but Mayweather was playing with McGregor too like when was the last time Mayweather walked someone down been a it's been a little while because he knew that uh the McGregor is a scrub in boxing so he made free McCoo the same way but he won't keep treating him that way if he gets tagged a few times he'll get serious and hopefully if he does win he'll knock and clean up that's what I hope um Moby Dick judge Holden very cool name by the way says McGregor was also 155. that's don't forget probably even maybe more even on weigh-in day well unless they had like a cap away I'm still was it was just a 145 at the time he was too far out there he'd been making 145 though I mean now if you see pictures of of McGregor he's obviously been doing some some working out you know but that was before he didn't he had not time to work out as much and put on as much um bulk as you would put it like so I mean I think maku is more comfortable 155 McGregor you know he did really well by the way he didn't completely translate up all the time as well to lightweight he did have a great win against uh Alvarez but we shocked the hell out of me but yeah I think makuru will do better than McGregor I don't think he's gonna get walked down I don't think Mayweather is going to want to walk this guy down I think he's going to use the shoulder roll use his defensive Mastery and then land counters counter rights and things like that it should be a lot of fun though I like the weird ones uh Jay Crush sorry jay Chris your thoughts on the on this exhibition I think it's gonna get a lot of eyeballs I mean obviously of course it's gonna get a lot of eyeballs to watch the product because Mayweather obviously is on the a side you know in the United States on the fight TV app it's gonna be billed as Mayweather versus osakula but you know if this fight ends up being anything I mean at least I can only hope that it goes past the first round in this one I wouldn't be basically saying you know I'm hoping that a knockout will happen because it just might it's Mayweather after all it's like Joe Ferraro once said about Floyd Mayweather he does this [ __ ] in his sleep but you know if anything I'm hoping that this fight can at least get out of the first round then after that who knows maybe we'll see a upset in the making maybe we'll see Mayweather get seven figures well eight figures probably just for that entire fight but who knows I am hoping to at least see the fight at least go out the first round uh I I am going to be the Negative Nancy on this like this is a fight at least give a [ __ ] about it's like collectively Debbie Downer because well because well here's the other thing I also don't like I also don't like that this is like the main event of the first show because this tells me okay well first of all this is also involving me crew uh like will people pay attention to what's after as opposed to what's before I mean if you look at who they put beforehand they put Koji who's a draw uh big draw nadaka who they want to be a big star and Cody mayur who's obviously you know well known or you're getting close getting Superstar status on name alone and then after that is the [ __ ] that as an MMA fan I was hoping others would see but with this show with this being the main event of the first portion will people give a a [ __ ] about what happens after that's the question I don't think so well dude if they're going to pay money to see Mayweather and they're going to get this extra card as a bonus afterwards why would they not check it out you know at least a couple fights I'm gonna talk about those those boxing fans that you're saying are tuning in for maywether okay because here's the thing so you know there's I mean you always see what the main event who comes in everybody comes in during the main event right nobody comes in not a lot of people come in for the co-main and also this is also related to Miku as well because he's got kind of that same cloud and fan base so they're going to come in to see mikaru and then after they're not going to give a [ __ ] about who's basically it's like that it's like that Rising car that happened during typhoon everybody wanted to see tension and then by the time Yuri prohaska fought it was damn near an empty house but that was a different story sorry in the chat uh Jacob Iris says that ryzen uses to have a landmark event at Gambler regime Island where Nokia cycle had that Island death match and no nina versus tiger sheetzing as well that would be great I think we can agree on that Chris right well yeah for the Oddity of it yeah and then Moby Dick judge Holden says it would be fantastic if all of Nick Roots fans immediately left after fully financed and that's you know I didn't even see that I saw that I just I clicked on the chat just now to see that and yeah that's what's that's what happens if anything happens in deep shows as well Babu Jack too I remember yeah we're gonna we'll talk we'll talk deep kick you know we're gonna get you we gotta get you on for that um so that's what happens is that you know when mikaru or one of the more popular guys has their fight everybody leaves after you know in fact it happens with a lot of the the Yoshi uh the the Deep Jewels fights like after cave Lotus like all of her fans will leave as soon as they're fighting so that's what I'm worried about uh and I Jay you you can't can't not say that can't not happen I mean okay it's a possibility but I just don't think it's gonna happen if people are paying money to you know to go to the event and to get it on Pay-per-view you know and this is the Mayweather bout is the fourth fight of the card if they pay the money to go there they're not going to freaking leave after that they're they're I mean there's going to be a whole card after that I mean it's okay maybe some of them will leave you know but some of them are going to be curious and that's those are the ones that I'm excited about I mean because no some I'll give it I'll give them this since the next portion of code card does have hagiwara you'll probably have a lot you know the hogi war fans say but then after hagiwara you know dude there is a bunch of bang fests on that card and and I just I'm I'm really excited about this I think look okay some people might leave after the Mayweather event I mean Mayweather mercuru of course Okay but well actually if they are sitting there I'm sad I mean I think about it the NBA is going to be coming up like a few days after at that same venue saitama super Arena so you might see somebody like Draymond Green or rui hachimura sit at ringside but as soon as those guys leave you know the true die hards will show up I no they're not all going to leave okay there's going to be something did you see did you see the Canelo Triple G fight from this week and uh Jay by any chance I did not get I saw highlights okay nobody was in that audience until Triple G and uh Canelo had their fight it was almost and I was like really surprised because you still have people coming who have like the co-main and you know maybe whatever that's before the co-main but Chris you saw that I know and uh also uh teeth I think you're still in the chat hopefully you saw that like nobody was in that till that fight that's another thing that worries me is that will people be seeing I mean not that I don't know that Jizzy Koji is is like drawing oh I mean I have to assume it is it is the that is legitimately the only fight I'm looking forward to on this card I mean time to think of it that fight's gonna probably drop lies to [ __ ] so to speak well the Koji fans will definitely come in the Koji fans will definitely be fine and or I shouldn't say flying but uh taking the the chicken concert from Osaka to see him so that's already like you know that they're gonna stay for that and maybe Mayweather it's that's the thing is that I wish I had some I wish some of the main the other MMA fights were on this show were on super the kind of like get that attention hopefully yeah you know I agree with you on that remember I was wanting them to put the yurio versus Luis Gustavo on on this super rising card yeah because I mean that one just got violence written all over it I mean I'm I just but at the same time you know you're talking about the Chanel Triple G that was the main event so that was at the very end of the card right yeah this one is right in the middle of the word starting off so I think it's going to be different because I mean I think when people show up they're they're not going to want to leave they're going to want to get their money's worth you know what I mean they're going to get there Jay don't forget the people who are paying you saw the price for these tickets if they have enough money to buy tickets for the show I'm pretty sure they don't give a [ __ ] about missing a bunch of fights they don't give a [ __ ] about it's not like you and I or uh oops my uh my camera went out it's not like you or I or Chris going to MMA show we're like okay you know what we paid we're gonna see the [ __ ] 2-0 Regional guys do no Regional versus one in five guy at like at a Bellator show or something like that so you know that's that's what happened you know we do that but not uh but not the uh not those uh not those very wealthy not those basic influencers that only give a [ __ ] about what's hot now exactly the the entire thing exactly yeah I guess we'll see I I don't I think there's going to be a I think you guys can be pleasantly surprised you know I also stick around this time I really do unlike the match as well the match Pro was promoted perfectly and it made it made you want to made that a not miss event that's why that crowd was in there at the beginning of that show did you see that remember when they showed like you know that was there was not there was barely no no seat that was not empty so they they promoted it as that I don't know if Verizon's doing the same thing with that in Japan with this Japan I don't know not entirely sure but they've basically they they price they priced a lot of people out who would probably would be coming in to see the show with those prices that you that that they that they uh released um there's reason why Babu Jack is going to deep kick and not Rising you know well dude those crazy prices those nft tickets they sold them out for it well the PT Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute so you know what you know dude you can't hate the player hate the game or whatever the old saying is I mean dude they're selling them out fair and square you know and and with those crazy prices they're charging they're still selling it out and you know if the people want to leave after the Mayweather fight then let them but I like guarantee you guys it's not gonna be like you think because they that's why I like this structure that I think it's a coffee bar I saw in the Epic rise in brass I think they did a just a brilliant job with this car I'm so happy okay but let's all take let's all take make official picks I'm thinking Floyd Mayweather by whatever the [ __ ] Jay I'll pick Floyd maywether too but I'm hoping that mercury can do a shocking upset yeah you give me too much credit uh tip are you here foreign if he kicks Mayweather I will this will be my favorite fight of the Year Bar None okay I don't care it'll be my favorite fight uh Jay critch will you get a tattoo of the kick on your buttocks I won't I won't go that far I won't go that far no okay maybe maybe come to think of it you'll probably be useful in Fire Island too with that tattoo uh Jay Chris your your prediction oh my prediction same as Jay Wolfe only thing is I mean it's pretty obvious if Mayweather beats mikuru via first round knockout that much is obvious it's just the fact that if it goes past that first round you're gonna be in you [ __ ] what am I trying to say if it goes past the first round you're gonna be in for some exciting [ __ ] uh I just want to go back to the chat before we go into the next fight Jacob ire says do you think Fedor would be willing to retire at ryzen Years Eve show for enough money and Rise would be smart to try to get him for belt of one night yes I think we all agree with that right bro that is absolutely what I am hoping for because if you look at the Bellator schedule both Vader and Vader do not have fights scheduled for the rest of the year for Bellator so you know I'm hoping that that is exactly what's going to happen uh you know I was I was actually hoping it might be you know one of the bouts for this car but there I'm hoping that that's what's going to happen for the New Year's Eve Bellator collaboration event going to be Vader versus Bader 2 rematch in in Arena I mean people piggyback off this point but I mean that's what we were talking about I second that emotion and you know namkoff's rematch with Corey Anderson is already scheduled and Fedor is not on the card so that also points towards the possibility of uh parents and rising to a co-promoted event I mean just the more cooperation between rise and Bellator the better cause I love the Bellator roster but I love the rising rule set so send them over Scotty Cokes get them done uh ryzen uh will die I love that name it's a funny name and the chat says the match couldn't convert people to PP in Japan you mean people pay-per-view Verizon will die if they could convert them to people and uh convert people to pay-per-view in Japan perhaps ryzer 38 wouldn't either despite mikaru's excessive pay-per-view that's a good point the match was one of the most successful pay-per-views that they did it had was like a dude it scored a bunch of great numbers for pay-per-view was he talking about and obema is like now one of the top freaking Platforms in Japan because regularly because pay-per-view is still not it's not what we have it's a weird thing it's not what we have like here it's it's not the same it's I don't know how it's like pay-per-view is is a weird thing in Japan because like there's not like we just had like there's not like a direct TV thing or something or like it's like pay-per-view is more I don't know how like it's but it's just not the same and I don't know wasn't the match on a bema pay-per-view right yes yes it was successful it was extremely successful I'm a bema pay-per-view and and and now Obama is one of the biggest platforms there but I think he's asking if he's saying if the match itself well because here's like the match was a one-time thing promoted as a big show that you can't miss and we can why isn't if ryzen 38 doesn't convert does it if ryzen to 38 just gets the same numbers or less then that maybe didn't convert those people that came over to watch the match I don't think you're ever going to convert everybody convert you I got no I get what you're saying but I don't think like I get what you're what this person is saying about about if they if pay-per-view so there's one time this big ass show you know I got I mean I I see your point Jay Wolfe I also see this point because if this show was the latest view with the names that it has on the way it's you know that is a bigger show compared to other Rising shows doesn't get a bigger number than usual I it might be um uh well actually here's Moby Dick judge Holden says converting it to a red group to be a regular thing for Japanese audiences another question especially for lesser shows a lot of stars that's why I was trying to say that is that what do you is that if if it's hard to to make it a consistent thing uh especially when yeah when you're not gonna have this a show like this strung out of just people that like you know that are stars I think that's what I was trying to say I was trying to get those words up I couldn't because I'm an idiot right I'm [ __ ] tired right now um I'm an idiot all the time hey Andrew speaking of which I gotta get my stupid ass clock back in at work oh okay okay well tip we appreciate it uh what time is your uh thing going on tomorrow 6 p.m eastern time tomorrow and we all have Jay Wolfe Mr old school right that's right Mr old school Jay wolf and uh hopefully special guest Andrew Benjamin and Jerry Christian Gary and we might even get uh your your man Burton on there uh Jay Wolfe we'll talk about doing a music show I'm gonna invite him to come jump in and rant a little bit about how awesome this card is excellent and come to think of it we can check out your show on the random acoustic dots YouTube channel correct that's right for for a whole bunch of ranting about Bellator and also some historical boxing content that has become a passion of mine all right guys I'm gonna listen to the rest show off here laters later take care Chief um oh Jacob Alexander has a Jacob Iris has another question uh Jay Chris you might know the answer to this were these tickets for this Rising show it's more expensive than the muto retirement show of Muto retirement show Tokyo Dome VIP tickets if you happen to know that oh really I did not know that they were going to have this [ __ ] at the Tokyo though it was going to be on Buddakan I think weren't the most expensive tickets for that uh Jacob please remind me was was it three thousand or four thousand or am I underselling it or was it like 6 000 like those VIP tickets um I think the ryzen show was more expensive I think this Verizon show was more was was more expensive if I remember them I very bad conversions but I'm pretty sure this show was more is more expensive than that uh than the muto show um but okay let's get to an obvious car because I really don't like this card that much that's actually the fight I'm looking forward to the most Koji versus Jizzy versus Jizzy I a fight that it can only happen in my dreams and that's only that's happening now Jay Wolfe Jay Wolfe what what I don't know what to say go on it's gonna be fun how can you not have fun with this ballot this is this is Floyd Mayweather's a bodyguard this is the guy that that Conor McGregor was calling a juice turkey and uh I mean dude this is gonna be a lot I just can't wait to hear Lenny Hart scream out Jizzy Mac's name how fun is that gonna be and then the about itself could be pretty exciting too I mean uh because he's he's a little slouch so I mean but the the Jizzy Mac is like going to be significantly bigger than him so I mean dude this is he's about 250. this is and koji's maybe walking okay he looks I don't know he looked bigger than Floyd and mikaru like combined he looks like he eats as much as uh uh mikaru uh basically what you're saying is he looks like he eats just as much as mikaru way so here's the other thing as well like I don't know what the they haven't said what the rules are I don't know I'm assuming like I can't believe that they would wear like four ounce or eight ounce gloves It's gotta be like 14 ounce maybe 16 ounce right there's no way that they would even dare there's no way a code you would dare try to like even a guy who's not a boxer where like the regular size boxing that's the other things I don't even know what the rules are like they're saying this is a standing bout so I'm not even sure like what they're allowing in terms of like offense come to think of it Andrew and here's the thing the rules for this fight are gonna be different than the rules in the main event which is mikaru versus Mayweather I think that this particular fight racing racy s-a-d-e-g-h-i is his real last name but oh what's going on let's call him Jizzy Mac I like that let's call him juicy Mac because we can't pronounce that Iranian last name of his but still though the juicy Mac Koji cozy Tanaka fight is basically gonna be and hopefully it's gonna be standing rules apply but you're probably gonna be able to use punches elbows kicks and knees like it's a traditional Muay Thai fight hopefully our buddy hey Shin uh we haven't seen a while we're glad that you're back Haitian um uh we'll ask is Jizzy famous in the United States no he is not he nobody knows who the [ __ ] he is I had no idea who he was why this whole thing about him like Conor McGregor Point him out I still didn't even know who he was until like whatever you know he's got millions of followers on like Instagram or something like that good for him good good for him I that I don't base no a million followers or 300 billion people in the United States is like point one percent Jay Wolf come on didn't you do math fact in high school hey but you know his incident okay if you're gonna go by that 135 hours I expect one million buys on fight TV if we're gonna go this route okay I'm gonna challenge you to that okay once you buy the fights but if it gets anywhere close to like say 50 000 that's gonna be a huge success okay and if he gets any anything over 50 000 will be just unbelievable so I mean but does he Mack dude he generated a bunch of articles for for that push at the presser when he pushed Mercury yeah so I mean so dude I won't also you know what I'll be fair as well I did say that ryzen needs to put on a freak Show fights and like something that like gets people talking he didn't think it was going to be this but I will I will hold them through the word you know that it that they did put on if this is literal this is little freak show this is what you know I what I'm talking about um um I don't know predictions Jay what happened back fist cozy by spinning back Fists of cozy is only about like five six as well how tall is is Jizzy like I I said that he's five nine here I don't know I thought he was a little bit taller I could be wrong you know compressor he he's not no like six foot three guy he's definitely shorter so five nine probably is probably about right um okay Chris how the [ __ ] do you think this goes I really don't care it's actually interesting so you can count me down as a draw I mean you can count me down as undecisive or whatever but this is probably the main fight that I wouldn't give two shits about I would just want to watch it as is um I don't know I'm hoping there's some weird-ass Shenanigans some weird ass [ __ ] Shenanigans yeah I really hope so I really like I don't want this I like if you know that press conference that they have is hilarious uh as well when they're announcing this fight um it's awesome I don't know could well okay how about this who gets who's more likely to knock out who you think Floyd is more likely to knock out mikaru or do you think that Jizzy I mean that uh that that Koji is more likely to knock out Jizzy or vice versa is more likely to knock out me plain and simple yeah I mean if Miku is going in there to brawl and he's gonna try to knock out Floyd and Floyd you know just like with the tension fight when tension tried to hit him Floyd just was like okay turns it on and knocks out tension so like I see something similar happen to this in in the Mercurial belt but you know with cozy and Jizzy Mac I mean that could also they could both end in The Knockout let's put it that way I really hope Cody knocks his fool outs I I Jacob Byers says it best jizzy's gonna get knocked out I really hope I really hope so because you know I know that Koji is not known for his knockout power or anything especially because he's older now but like I'm hoping that like I don't I I don't know maybe liver I don't know if somebody in the kickbox who knows more about kickboxing if Cody's a liver guy please let me know because if he is then that's one way to get uh that's one way to knock out Jizzy because no matter how big you are we run this with bathroom no matter how big you are you'll go down with a with a liver kick or liver Punch or liver Punch or even a heart punch um and uh what was it Jacob ire says we should review breaking down because of the best thing in jamming man I don't it's the most popular thing in Jama I don't know if it's the best thing in jmma uh but maybe hey I'll say this I'll say this as well they do provide subtitles as well they do they're they're English Outreach is much more swifter than risens at this point we have not gotten any Rising confessions yet we have not gone in the rise and fight guides yet that are that are in English so uh um what do you talk about we've got to fight to you on DirecTV they're coming into Hawaii next year they're doing Bellator collaboration event at the end of the year I mean dude come on uh but listen breaking down has subtitles the next day you know and they get and they have four million views they get four they get four million views they upload on a Monday and then they have a four they have almost eight million videos by Wednesday uh Moby Dick judge Holden says one minute fights with dubious judging yawn I um I mean it's just like I mean it's like Paulie malignaggi once said boxing is full of [ __ ] but this fight I'm not gonna this fight between Tanaka and Jizzy Mack and I use and I basically say Tanaka we all know his name is cozy k-o-u-z-i but this fight should be entertaining no I just one I'm looking forward to the book because I just don't know what to expect like I really don't know what to expect uh and then let's continue because we've spent enough time to think of it man it's like Larry Merchant once said this is the theater the unexpected yeah what's what's good let's let's go through we'll just finish card uh nadaka returning taking on bonusek Chris did you say that you had a bandisex or is it the other yeah I have on the sexual pets particulars here he stands in at five feet three he weighs in at 117 pounds he has a kickboxing record of 78-21 and five kickboxing and Muay Thai by the way and he is 33 years old born July 12 1989. that's after yourself so this fight should be the most important test of yoshinoy radaka's career it's not it's a squash light the dock is going to win that's my thoughts Jay Wolfe they want to push him and so it's going to be pretty cool about this it's the lone J kick bout of the of the evening so hopefully it delivers the goods and uh um yeah well damn y'all just basically selling this short in that case I'm gonna say that nadaka wins via first or second round knockout it's a three three minute bout it's a three three minute roundabout just like all the bouts on this rising card I think it's gonna be pretty I mean on this super rising card I should say with the obvious exception being culture versus bunchai which we'll get to in a second but I think that this fight is gonna be a stepping stone for nadaka as usual um nadaka's entire career is killing Muay Thai guys this is going to be no different I I wouldn't be surprised if like this was like a part of like you know this guy's a part of the uh Boon Tunes team or wherever the other guy is the other the guys coming in to lose to okota you know it's it's it's they the DACA is here because they hopefully I know that they wanted to be a a big guy uh and this is a great way to put them on but the Mayweather card hopefully fans actually come in to watch him but this is also just a fight for him to win there's nothing else to say about it that's like really how it is there's nothing wrong with that but that's just what this fight is it's a it's that they want to give the documents when also the way class is very hard because other than like all the Japanese guys that he's probably faced already like the only competition he has is is just random Muay Thai guys that's really that's really all he has at this point unless he goes up uh or attention decides to come back and pay some which will never happen um but I think you say we're all we're all peeking the DACA right but if we're all gonna pick them what do we predict first round second round or third round knockout okay second round I say first one and done one and done that's what it is and uh yeah and did we want to go ahead and skim through this first fight that's going to take place yes please another job another job or match oh my God here we go with this [ __ ] don't downplay these guys Andrew I got I know what they're being brought in for it's queerless like they couldn't not be if they win it's like amazing but they're pretty brought in to lose that these these tie guys whatever uh code of your houses name pronounced uh Jake Rush versus and this guy bun chai is 22 years old born 2 000 stands in at 5 10 weighs in at 145 pounds and he has not just a Muay type record 22-7 but a professional boxing record of four two and one and he's also a former WBO Oriental super lightweight title Challenger which is to you that he chops out yeah uh Chris just to let you know fix your Internet because you're you're cutting in and out at least on my end um so uh but I'll get to you in a second Chris uh Jay Wolfe listen yeah this is a long MMA fight or maybe special rules that I may find this card you know what do you think how does this go so I'm looking forward to it you know I love the Mixed Martial Arts about especially in the superior rule set I mean hopefully I mean you said it's got special rules on this so hopefully they still allow the superior rules of Epic Rising with Soccer Kicks and Stomps all the good Pride rules stuff so I mean as long as it's got that then it should be awesome I think it's vegetables not 100 sure but I think it's special rules I could be wrong or you know what the way come to think of it it is special rules because it's three three minute rounds just like the Euro's first fight like last year oh okay okay so yeah that is like that is technically special rules um so it's just the time limit on the on the rounds is three minutes to set up they also may not allow wouldn't be surprised if they don't allow Soccer Kicks to the head but they'll allow Soccer Kicks to the ground like everywhere else no Stomps well at least allow Stomps and grounded knees well if they wouldn't allow Soccer Kicks I don't think they allow that as well to the head at least okay I don't think I don't think that's that's because I know the first fight they were not allowed in the ground that's why if you remember he kicked Yushi when uh when in the chest he never kicked him in the head so that's why that's that's that was I think that was one of the rules that not to the head at least that's my perception uh of what these rule of what the rules might allow who knows well hopefully they do a lot of Soccer Kicks how are you gonna have a soccer star son fighting mixed martial arts without allowing soccer boots he'll kick again chest like last time they'll kick in the chest like last time he'll kick the uh um but yeah listen you're picking code of me or the win I'm guessing right there's really like so you're having a Muay Thai guy who's also a boxer having his first MMA uh fights I mean what how else can it potentially go Jay Chris probably be a first round knockout yeah or submission you know code viewer this is code of mirrors give me fight you know this is his his revenge fight against kind of boo a cow after being you know thrown to the Wolves there um oh I'm falling behind that yeah Jacob ire says breaking down is great because it's the only place you can see male pornstars getting knocked out by that Cruiser members and then he also says no Soccer Kicks means no good true yeah whatever your life this is this is why I'm not looking forward to oh three of the four fights on on rise on the rise on 38 because supervisor because it's just it feels like you know it should have at least balanced it out with maybe having two of the MMA matches on Rise of 38 and put them on supervisor so it kind of just feels like okay you have a little bit of balance of just regular stuff and then you know at the Floyd you have the rest but this is how they started to book the car for whatever reason let's get on to the better card which is ryzen 38 I'm so excited for part two uh whether it's whether it's live on pay-per-view or just fight I'm it's so much better looking forward to it and I think they picked the perfect fights to have like the opening because listen I don't think Floyd Mayweather mikaru is going to be an exciting fight to watch so that's why they're playing giri O'Hara and Luis Gustavo um both on windshield well actually Louise Gustavo not on win streak but at least won his last fight destroying yusuke yachi again but Julia who's on the uh probably nine fighter eight Fight Win streaket thing at this point um like a three fight win streak of of advising yeah kicks and stuff to win Oh I thought you meant in Rising yeah he's won every fighting Horizon that he's been in uh so far yeah this past couple fights in both deep and Horizon he's won with the superior rule set using Soccer Kicks and Stomps and all kinds of good stuff so I mean yeah I can't wait for this one so I ask you Jay Wolfe you're a fan of both of them I know uh how who is going to come out their hand raised and how in this fight dude this is a difficult one to pick both these Fighters are excellent you know Luis gustavo's Wanderlei Silva Protege Yuri O'Hara is just absolute Sensational fighter in Japanese MMA I mean just you know it's hard to pick a winner here the one I actually would like to win is Yuri O'Hara I'm hoping for him to get the next title shot I'm hoping this is actually a title Eliminator about and you know it just I'm just really excited for this one because I I just think it's just got fireworks and violence just it's absolute Banger just written all over it and just I just can't wait I mean if it doesn't if it's not action-packed I will be severely disappointed well this is why I say temper your expectations jabel because MVP Paul Daley is supposed to be a big in pacified and they hugged for three rounds so that was not under the superior rule set this one if they try to go on the ground and just hug around they can at least do grounded knees they can do you know Up Kicks to the face they can do 12 or six elbows you know they can do kicks heel kicks to the face and the ground all kinds of good stuff so I mean it's just the superior rule set is a difference here you know with with full Pride rules and just it's just makes it the most dynamic point of man and these two fighters are already proven on a superior rule set to be exciting so I I just cannot see this about not being exciting that's why I'm so excited about it I'm so happy that they put it as a kickoff of for the 38 card because I think that there's going to be carryover fans from the Super Rising event with the Mayweather Mercure main event for that I I don't I don't believe that there's going to be a bunch of people leaving then they're gonna stick around and I'm I'm really happy that this is the first bout that I put on 38 because people that do stay stick around are going to get this spout right here as their first introduction to 30. it's just it's going to hook them in bro I I just can't wait it's gonna be I'm gonna tell you this Jay wolf I know someone's going to the show and who's going to be there for the I guess both shows and he'll confirm with me whether people left I'm gonna I'm gonna get confirmation I'm gonna get your exact number but if you I'm gonna get caught I will get confirmation on if a bunch of people when I say bunch I mean like half of whatever cytop I'll let you know I will I'll I will on the on the review show I'm gonna let you know we'll be able to see it we'll be able to see it because they're not going to have it we'll be able to see the crowd if there's been a bunch of people that left okay I'm sure some will leave but I I think the majority is going to stay okay just do and they're going to be in for a treat okay so I also asked this as well to you Jay Wolfe um you said this is a title of a nerd Now Jerry O'Hara did say on Drake riggs's podcast uh this is all his own show brought a horizon that he doesn't feel he does not feel the wind in this fight that he's deserving him towel shot he said he would want another fight before he gets one um should should uh shingo and all the matchmakers be like shut the [ __ ] up you know if you win you get the next tile shots same thing I mean uh I would like him the next title shot if he wins but if he wants another one before that then go ahead book him another one but I mean I I think he's I think this should be a title shot a title Eliminator about right here because it's that good of a fight I'm in agreement no no I really am in agreement I really think I should uh Jay Chris your thoughts how do you think this fight goes we got two finishers uh so I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how you think this fight can potentially go um if this is the fight that's gonna kick off the ryzen 38 portion and if those Die Hard fans are still there some casual fans are still there from the Mayweather fight you know I think this might wake him up a bit I mean especially if you're staying up past 2 A.M Eastern you're definitely watching some great action and this is definitely going to be that type of wake up call to get you up for some great action however I don't know if this fight is gonna reach the judge's scorecards which is the fun part because it's like you said Andrew to finishers jerio Horrors writing a let's see Julio Harvest writing an eight fight winning streak and Luis Gustavo I think as one who three of his last four or four of his last five I'm not sure but still though this fight is definitely gonna be something to behold especially if you're looking for that combat fix at 2 A.M eastern time so here's the other thing about Gustavo Gustavo has finished every one of his wins now jury on the other hand he when he finishes he does it with oomph but here's the thing when he is fights the father his fights go it it becomes like a crap shoot uh because it it's you know it seems like the longer the fight goes on the less it favors him you know uh you know this member of the Akira fight was a split decision went for him uh the yusuke Ashi was also Split Decision as well his rise of Debut so when it comes to to decisions they don't usually it's usually very close so but I also like what Jay wolf says is that here's the problem is that jiriohara is on on an insane win streak and considering where his where he his career kind was you know kind of like you know middle of the road journeyman now you know getting all these big wins um it's kind of like it's kind of like a great feel-good story I would have to say but the pro you know but also you know Gustavo not fighting for how long was it two years like literally like took no fights said he only wants to fight in ryzen uh and he said I'm gonna I think that Gustavo hasn't fought prior to coming back for this you know recent event that he was gone he has it brought in almost three years well no he had the yachty fight he had the yachty fight Chris don't forget that he had the auction fights of course of course um he hadn't bought in like three years yeah exactly yes and then he has this his second fight this year as well it's very hard I mean here's the other thing as well you know we gotta take a check out junior high is [ __ ] tall could Gustavo even reach him for a punch for one of his uh hard ass punches or kicks I mean that's the other thing is that jury Ohio is a heart I think the reason why he doesn't get knocked out or knocked around very easily is because he's just such a tall guy he he like you know Jay you've seen him at the wins right he's literally towering over everybody over his opponents yeah I mean dude this his Height's definitely going to be a factor for for Luis but dude Luis is a tough fighter too I mean like I was saying he's one of the Silva's one of his Protege yeah so he's Brazilian International fighter and I love how he only wants to fight for epic Rising he wants to fall and wandalay's footsteps so being the next Brazilian star in Japan and just wants to be an expert so I just I love him too so we do have to pick we do have to pick picks sorry Jay Wolfe who do you think wins and how does it happen oh God you know I hate making picks and predictions but for I'll do it just for you for this one I I want julioara to win the soccer kick or actually flying stomp would be my my favorite and uh and if that can't happen then the opposite for Luis Gustavo to win be a soccer kicker flying stomp I I just want to try to end be a superior rule set strikes I'm gonna be I'm gonna be an [ __ ] Jean wolf sorry I need a winner who do you like if what is your who if you're putting down money or you're doing a horizon betting sheet or whatever who do you check off I I Gotta Go With Yuri O'Hara he's just on an incredible run right now like you're saying the Gustavo is coming off a long layoff so I'll go ahead and pick yuriohara for this but like I said I would I'm not mad either way whoever wins Jay critch I think that this fight is probably gone I mean what am I saying I think that Gustavo is going to win this fight oh but again don't expect this fight to end with a damn decision don't expect it to be you know to fight I mean two you know what am I trying to say don't expect this to be two finishers having a damn grapple Fest like MVP versus daily was don't expect this to be boring is what I'm trying to say this fight is going to be epic from opening bail to final blow but I do think that Gustavo is going to win this second round knockout oh second round okay interesting okay I'm gonna say I'm gonna say first because both these guys are strongest well especially Jerry Jerry's strongest in his first I'm gonna pick jury I think his I think his insane win streak is you know a one to behold considering where he was before he has a deep lightweight champion right now um and I definitely I think I well it's interesting that that Gustavo is a smaller lightweight and he's but he hasn't really he has he's adjusted the lightweight very well I think though I think Julio Harris size is gonna it's gonna be something to contend with it's really going to be is going to be hard for Gustavo to kind of like really get his his striking his really hard vicious striking in and the thing is that's the thing is that jury can do can hit him from a distance and still hit with power uh now as a as a thrown goes as a show as a fight goes on I think it's gonna favor jury less but I'm picking jury because I think jury I think he's gonna come prepared for his fight I think he's going to use his sides his reach uh to get the uh to get the uh Edge on Gustavo and I think he can I think he will actually knock out Gustav I'm gonna say the first round that's my official pick it's Gustavo first round and yes hopefully this is a uh a title of an Eliminator because this is listen both you know considering that Gustavo beats yachi former Child Contender it's for a second time and obviously juries uh insane win streak and ryzen and just outside ryzen he you know it should be a tile Contender fight and you know whoever wins should face Satoshi New Year's Eve not to mention as well it was just a stylistic differences would be great against a good fight against Satoshi in my opinion wouldn't you agree James I mean come to think of it if you think about it I think the perfect opponent that would probably make sense you know for somebody like a Luis Gustavo if he does win and you know what you can consider this breaking news all you want but I think the perfect opponent would probably be Eddie Alvarez is he still of one though isn't he still a one no it's just been announced by Mark rahmundy of ESPN that Eddie Alvarez is now a free agent interesting okay well that would you know he does have connection with sakaki bar and pride of dream dream actually Horizon quickly uh he listed hey you know what Hawaii rise in Hawaii maybe uh just just tell them to leave this annoying wife at home I just don't want to hear her yelling uh that would be interesting though if ryzen he's definitely a rising worthy fighter I think we all agree on that right oh yeah yeah definitely uh by the way all is well you're gonna hear a lot more people leaving one that's all I'm gonna say to you guys I've gotten word on a lot of people who are leaving one and big names so just to put that out there um so who who would that be I can't stay out here I can't say I can't say here so uh I'll tell you yeah you say you're gonna have to kill Jay Wolfe no I'll have to kill myself because my source will probably send people to kill me so I'll just say that uh but I think we also called this I think this is fair to say this is the people this is the people's Main Events right yes I agree this is a people's Main Event right here it's it's got just absolute Banger written all over it and if it's not an absolute Banger it's going to be disappointing period yes I mean that's it's just we're placing High expectation on this both guys have shown that they know how to use a superior rule set and be exciting Fighters so this this has just got fireworks written all over it and if it does not deliver you know it's it's going to be a disappointment period it's the people's main event and it's it's it's should be an absolute Bank Fest period uh before we go on to next fight Jacob ire says Eddie Alvarez and Rising will be a dub absolutely agree and we're smoking on that we smoking on that one pack you should have you shouldn't have gotten rid of Soccer Kicks and slams oh yeah um so let's let's continue on because ryzen 38 is a better card over already with just one fight uh another exciting fight I think this will be actually a great fight you are taking on Chihiro Suzuki that that press conference [ __ ] was hilarious right you know where he's telling him you know like you know hockey bar is talking [ __ ] on Suzuki in the little uh I guess um kind of uh Scandal that he's indirectly involved with with trigger and or the trigger sponsor I should say um a whole absolutely hilarious stuff um won't come to think of it first of all shout out to shingokashiwagi for actually you know translating most of that stuff to us when you know that event that happened no no no he wasn't a translator though he was not the translator there was somebody else I know shingo's voice that was not him I have no idea who it was but uh they did they did good under the circumstances well hey let's give a shout out to shingo anyways because he's awesome he does stuff for epic Horizon so did you see the PO so did you see that picture that Bruno Masami posted of him yeah I was like did he did he just did he did he find uh shingo's Tinder uh picture because that is that is that was like a nice that's like a Tinder profile picture you know even though I I I you know I'm not I don't know if he's married or whatever but I was like oh that's that is like a nice that's like glossy photo that's like a nice beautiful glossy photo uh that's that's that that's headshot that's like um portrait material photo that was so you know I I at least yeah I guess if I wanted to steal your that was a superior photo shoot uh to steal your your lies you off but uh so hagiwa or Suzuki um I mean Jaguar has not had a lot of luck lately in ryzen unfortunately meanwhile Suzuki's been kind of on a win streak so Jay Wolfe I I'm I'm curious to hear your thoughts also as well if you think the trash talk we'll get to Suzuki as well because excellent just I hope that hogi war gets to win because he's you know he's he's like like we're in hiramoto just just absolute treasure I mean of this new era of Japanese MMA fighters I mean he just so I would definitely like him to get the win here and you know he's already he's already shown that you know he Cherry the the first rise and Trigger of it you know and with the soccer kick finish and just you know he's just a great fighter so I'm hoping that he pulls off the win here and um just yeah I mean I just I just like him you know great trash talk like you were saying this is you know exciting fire inside outside the ring so I just hope he pulls off the wind here that would be great what about the trash talk do you think that trash talk will affect Suzuki at all or is he I don't know masking what do you think you gotta have any effect no no I don't think that has any effect on him I mean uh well you never know I mean because Hagar is really good at the trash talk just like Wren so I mean it's it's like you know maybe it does affect him but who knows I mean we'll we'll find out fight time but I just think hopefully is going to be the Victor here in this bout and just because like I said he's just an exciting fighter inside outside the cage you know he's great on the mic great inside the ring so I mean I I just can't wait to see it um the other thing I also have to mention so obviously we all know hagiwara's uh basically it's Achilles heel is grappling and be in submission based um fighting Suzuki has never won a fight by submission though he has shown good grappling and he and he did show it in the uh sorry Yamoto win um but also Suzuki has a tendency he can get knocked out you know Shoji knocked him out so what do you think do you think the strategy for Suzuki should just be grapple I guess how you are and went that way what do you think or what do you think uh uh Jay which which Jay oh sorry sorry yeah of course I mean hogwart's a striker so of course if uh you know Suzuki is gonna have to try to Grapple to get the victory like you're saying and maybe you could pull off the first submission victory of his career who knows but I just think that you know [ __ ] bars will be too much for him he's you know he's just because he got out grappled before doesn't mean he has always been working on so hopefully that you know if Suki does try to Grapple with them okay well I'll be ready for it he'll be able to you know stuff some stakedowns hit some grounded knees if you hit a saw kick or stomp and that'll be all she wrote you know we'll see don't forget uh hagiwara was submitted by Dominator who does not dominate his fights at all so keep that in mind Jay critch I'm gonna throw it throw it to you now hagiwara Suzuki does uh hagiwara snap that losing streak that he's on uh get that get back in the winning column become seven six if that's his actual wreck or potentially his record can be his record or do we see Suzuki continue to uh continue on the upward Trend uh in ryzen well I think in a way if hockey War wants to try and beat Suzuki he's gonna have to you know not fight like a madman or a stoner but basically fight like he knows how to win you know I mean the dude is six and six overall at least that's what topology says but still don't I do think that he has a chance to win this fight because of the fact that now if you look at Suzuki he basically hops back and forth between kickboxing and MMA aguara is an overall MMA fighter he's going to need to basically fight like a child and true cage fighter or in this case a tired and true Superior rule set ring fighter yeah so yeah I see hockey while winning this maybe be a second or third round finish I don't see this one going to the judges okay wolf yeah I'm hoping for the same thing absolutely hope you are pulls off the finish and Sensational Superior roll set fashion which is already shown a potency to be able to do he's acclimated to the superior rule set so I mean I just thought about it was gonna be exciting another finish so hopefully ends at loose losing streak yeah you know Suzuki isn't one of my favorite fires I know you don't like him because he beat Ren uh Jay Wolfe so I know you have hover some uh some some some negativity towards him I'm just I don't think Suzuki is really he's not one of my like when I see him on car I'm like oh yeah Suzuki hero Suzuki like even though I still think that ryzen should do the uh the uh hiroaki Suzuki and shahiros is if you fight just because you can say oh I hope Suzuki wins um but uh no listen I think we're all fans of hagiwara hog you are bring something different to Verizon he brings that Osaka [ __ ] grimy attitude to ryzen you know that's you know nobody else talks like that apart from like Ren um maybe like other people a few other people as well so that's why like you know he's got the personality and the the the flashiness that Horizon you know really you know really loves and you know not to mention he's one of the more popular fighters as well despite his record uh especially if you look on social media um so yeah I hope hagawara comes out with the win on this you know ideally a knockout but you know that's the other thing as well when you were when you're on a two fight losing streak do you you know do you fight the same way you've been fighting or do you play it safer uh I mean that's not that's not uncommon for fighters who lose to play it safe am I right Jay Wolfe yeah but I think look with the superior rule said that that's that's he's not gonna be able to play it safe he's trying to play it save messes around you get you get finished by by Suzuki so he's going to want to go in there and try to finish Suzuki himself and so I mean I just I can't I don't think he's gonna play it safe I just don't see how this does not seem like that type of fire to do that so I mean we'll see so I also wonder you know if shahiro is less likely to brawl after this Shoji loss because that's exactly how he lost as well and hagawar is going to want a brawl he's going to want to keep it standing so Suzuki is going to want to keep it on the grounds and kind of just point his way to a decision when which worries me because that will that will that will do it that he will win that way there is like that will that if that strategy works in the first round he's going to do in the second and the third round I guarantee it 100 with the show that he's got his grappling up you know he's improved in his grappling I don't think he has I agree I don't think he has about to find out so we'll see I'll get my official pick uh hug you are I'm going to say a second round KO in this uh and he and then we'll go on to seven and six if that topology record is correct though I'm not so sure if it's 100 correct but of course it wouldn't be a ryzen show if we didn't have some big boy some big meaty Big Boys on this show uh and really like you know like there's nothing that's really a like I mean I guess I guess juicy Mack kind of counts as a big boy but he's not facing a big boy so it's that's like a half a big boy thing oh um basically what you're trying to say is we got a big boy fight an open weight showcase so to speak show moshibi side Japan's next hope at heavyweight versus Kelly you gilbling the Oliveira and when I say that this man is a monster what I think I really mean to say is when it comes down to him hold up the geminal [ __ ] because that's his nickname yeah that's so Kelly Lou is one of my uh I hope Bobby Jack is not here anymore but because I can I can say this and he won't uh he won't uh go after me he's one of my he's one of the few people I look to forward to and Rise when he fights because he's an absolute monster when he fights and Rise he's mainly kick it's he throws anime fires and win the kickboxing now he's coming back to him I'm actually surprised that Verizon never got him back got him like earlier now they're like going now they want him um and you'll be like yeah he's a this is you know he it's a it that that's an interesting nickname because he is a juggernaut when he fights um his only loss in MMA get this is the Satoshi ishi and somehow if she submitted him so oh great he bought him into a Kimura yeah but uh but uh Kelly Lewis has finished all his MMA fights uh so that's great and we're obviously all familiar she besai you know he beat uh he beat the scenario but then fell to Shrek and then came back against vihar's biggest uh this year um uh I wouldn't say I did some review Jay wolf I think I mean sorry yo Jay Chris I was I would put cedario now as the next great hope of Japanese heavyweights at this point I think she beside training are you sure is it because of the fact that he's training with insane in a way and all they want to do is build sudario into the next UFC Sensation from Japan yeah I think so I think uh I think so I think so Jacob ire is in the chat I thought you said something else I thought you said I I love meth heads fighting and I was so confused he wrote I love Meatheads fighting I really thought you said methods that's how tired I am Jacob we agree so uh Jay Wolfe I'm gonna ask are you looking forward to this fight I know here's the thing about chibisa is that he you know uh he's like he's he's a good fighter not a great fighter but he's a finisher and I admire that so is Caillou so do we get a finish of this fight or is this good is this kind of like are we gonna get it like the Roses the the one loses shruke uh uh uh the fights were oh they're both finishers and then they don't finish each other type thing I don't think so I think because this is a big boy heavyweight brawl so it's I think somebody's gonna go you know be finished in this belt and I'm hoping for she deciding at the Finish because you know he's he's familiar remember gamma GMO the moat fighting yeah promotion who had a couple fights there so you know I'm a big fan of his and um but you know I love my kickboxing crossovers as well so I mean I don't know it's like it's tough to pick who I want to win but I'm going with Shiba side so I mean I hope this wouldn't be a finish do you think he's gonna submit Cali Lou like Satoshi ishi did or you think he's gonna be able to knock him out I don't know I'm I'm of course I'm always hoping for The Knockout and I'm hoping for like a superior rule set knockout with flying stops or Soccer Kicks of course but you never know I mean if the submission is there and get them down and submit them then you know that's that's how I lost before so that could actually you know I could get him with the rear naked choke or you know who knows so we'll we'll find out um when either if would a win for she okay a win for either of these two what then you do after though because it seems like ryze's heavyweight division is a little bit dead in the water we might you know my you know with Japan you know officially having no more restrictions now it might change but I don't know do you do you think that the heavyweight division will get a little bit more I get some Meats so to speak uh now that restrictions have opened they don't have to depend on just you know Japanese you know heavy weights and all that stuff yes absolutely I believe that every division in Epic Horizon will get some more Fighters because now it's open like you bring International Fighters and we've seen in the past epic rise in brass is an excellent as scouting the great that's where uh Venom nimkoff Yuri prochasca the UFC champion oh I mean a Manuel cape and other UFC fighters on the rise I mean all these guys were foreign Fighters that were fighting epic Rising that's where they're originally from and now that the restrictions the cover restrictions are over they're gonna be able to bring in more uh foreign Fighters I expect more of the same to happen again with these foreign Fighters so you know I'm definitely looking forward to you know maybe they can do a Heavyweight Grand Prix next year who knows I mean it just the future is just so bright I just can't wait but yes the question yes jacobeyer says they might be meth head since ryzen probably doesn't drug test and Memphis popular Japan I have to correct you I know that Verizon does drug tests I don't know how specific or strong the drug test is but I do know because that was a member with the topic musaev where his manager claimed at Verizon and paid him and suppose and one of the things is that uh that the drug test has to come back I was about to say positive no I meant negative negative uh to be paid I think that's how most commissions I think that's how most commissions around the world work anyway right or at least that's how Nevada does where like you have to like if you fight you got you know after you fighting you come to think of it everybody follows the rule set that goes on out of Nevada well except for obviously rising of course yeah but I definitely know that ryzen does drug test uh um for uh again I don't know to the strength of what the drug testing is I do know that fires have been drug tested uh for that uh and I did not know that meth was popular in Japan considering that like marijuana will literally get you in jail for like a decade I have like I'm that surprises me that like meth is somehow has somehow weasel this way in Japan um I mean kind of think of it just acts Max Seidel oh yeah they do not they do not take weed or vape pens lightly over there uh so Jay Chris I'll forward it to you now uh Cali Lou Callie Lou versus Shoma shibisai what do you think we get from this fight E1 aka Big E from the WWE we're gonna see some big meaty men slapping me but in all seriousness down this is gonna be a fight that's gonna make the Godzilla movies look like Barney so to speak I think this fight is just going to be incredibly epic it's going to be action-packed it's gonna be balls to the wall excitement but unfortunately for she besides hopes and dreams of being Japan's next big heavyweight star or next big star in general I don't think that he's gonna last into the second round I think that the Juggernaut Kelly you Gil brain de Oliveira who already has a long ass name when you don't include his middle names I mean I think that the Juggernaut is gonna turn Shoma into a human mosh pit uh J wolf who's your official prediction I think you may have given it by I I I may have not heard it yeah I'm going with my heart I want Shiva side to win because you know really gun rarajima boat fight veteran wow listen um unless I'm all team Heat and Rise kickboxing so and listen Cali Lou I've been a callaloo fan ever since I saw him and Rise he's got personality and he's he's got the way he won I if I I think it was his heavyweight fight that he won he won with a jab and he's a jab sent his opponent maybe like about halfway across the ring and the opponent it was and got knocked down or Rule and knocked down I believe that was his heavyweight fight where that happened I could be wrong but there was like he's got power uh I'm not the biggest shibi side fan even though he's got the even though he's he's won every fight uh finish all his fights um I think that that caliber you know I think he's I think you know it's kind of like it's kind of like the Miguel perea thing from uh from you the guy from UFC formerly Road FC um you know it's just kind of like kind of just somebody like I don't know I like his energy and also he's a fun fire to watch he does not put on a bad fight um and so yeah hoping uh you know hoping to see you know uh Callie Lou come out the win I think it's first round I think regardless of I think first round it doesn't leave if it go that's what worries me this could be one of those things where like if it leads the first round it could be a long it could be long two rounds after that so I'm hoping that like someone gets knocked out by the first round hopefully Kelly who's one who gets his hand raised um think of it Andrew this is going to be the first time I'm gonna be seeing this man compete so oh yeah I'm just looking forward to something interesting you can you can find his he fights on YouTube and you can also find all his virus fights on uh on Rise as well so I definitely recommend people take a look at those because they're they're really good uh Jacob Iris says methane methane amphiphetamines are popular because people like to stay up to work in Japan oh that makes sense and uh Jacob Potter says also is that con man Takata still in the office of Verizon I think I think he still evolved um I know he's had health issues um I'm assuming you're thinking of um yeah he's still involved with ryzen he still does the introduction he doesn't come out in the diaper anymore and and hits the drums at least then they bring that back I I think he's just he's a really old guy now he's had I think knee and hip surgery at this point um he's he's kind of like he's yeah he can he's not he's Moodle kg but the level of like of like walkability at this point where he's like oh it's like Barrel it's almost wheelchair like level so he's gonna he's not I I don't and I don't say the joke it's like I feel bad for him because that's like you know that's a hard life to live but he is an old man now and I think he's just in a consulting position in Horizon at this point uh for the most part um now this next fight I think is an is not going to be interesting fight because I am not a fan of one of these guys and it's not a hero Mouse who I'm not a fan of it's so true Kim who I'm not a fan of um so so Soulja Kim So Verizon uploaded the the one fight that he had uh in Horizon many many many many years ago this is like pre-fights pre-flight TV Rising uh this was back in 2015 right yes against uh Malika Linares um excuse me um and it is uh both Fighters got multiple yellow cards I think at least two is a horrible fight it's a boring fight when I saw that this three round fight was was over 30 minutes I will close to 30 minutes I was like why it's gotta be like is there a DQ or something no they're just they're they're Jay Wolfe if you want to see a fight where that'll put you to sleep it's this fight and I'm really honestly surprised that they're bringing so true Kim back because usually when you put on a shitty fighting ryzen you don't come back usually was a one Championship uh champ right and uh not to mention he is a two-time and current road FC Champion yeah yeah so I mean he's got the potential to be a good fighter so just because he had one bad performance I think that's why they brought him back to be honest with you I mean I mean this is gonna be a great opponent for hiromasa I mean that's dude we've seen him fight and he'll we know he's excited as well so I don't think it's going to be that that bad of a fight Drew really well I'll say this I'll give him credit he has wins over over great fires like Kevin billing young uh Moto Noble tezuka who just fought in ryzen it's a Tamara he has a win over Tayo nakahara also fought on Rising Marcus brimage also yeah of course we all remember him from Conor McGregor's highlight reel exactly so he has wins over legit people um uh so I don't discredit him as a fighter as overall record by I discredit the way he's fought and he's won most of those fights by really boring decisions also this is just me I'm gonna sound like an [ __ ] for this but his but his receding hairline really bothers me and I wish it would just shave his head well do you hate on LeBron for the same thing then that's why who um is retracted all the scalp I don't see it though like I'm pretty sure my hair I'm pretty sure my head looks better than social Kims it does no it does like his receding hairline really bothers me and like it's really distracting because even though he's 30 he looks like he's 15. he's got that easy he has that it's it's like you know you know how to say Asian don't raisin you know it's if of him it's like it's a very it's it's like borderline like I don't know like like it's like could be 30 which he is or could be 50. but in all seriousness in all serious man's going bald listen listen either if they get the Hair Club for Men or get those where they shaved like the ass hairs and like put them in like the roots or whatever do that or just shave it off listen he no listen you probably look like a badass if he shared off his hair to tell you the truth he really would um bald for sure absolutely uh In fairness though listen again I'm not discrediting his record I mean he's also fought on multiple weight classes as well this will be his return to bantamweight I think rights or because I I still don't know how the [ __ ] one does or [ __ ] I don't I like it doesn't make any sense to me yeah it is it says he's a featherweight but it says he's at 135 for this belt yeah so he's going down a weight class um the problem you know so but you know oldie Cooper has been on this you know one on the band boy tournament uh so and on an incredible win streak as well so uh Jay Wolfe how do you think this fight goes I think hiramasa is going to take it he's a good fighter like he says on the win streak won the Grand Prix and you know I think that this I think this this fight here muscle wins this one they're gonna match him up with uh Koji for a third time I think if if kyoji can get through the main event so that's that's what I think it's gonna happen I'm hoping I mean social Kim is a good fighter you know and and he's being brought in because like you said he's got a great great record one former One champion and you know it's gonna be a good fight so I'm hoping to hear him also wins it an exciting fashion and then that sets up the trilogy about with kyoji uh Jacob Iyer says uh won championships are for jobbers [Music] not entirely but but with all the with all their big fires leaving they might all they have they might only have droppers like hey dude who's leaving come on you can't just just that's all I can that's all listen when it comes out it'll come out you know what Andrew the less said about that the better also Jacob Ayer says Kim got that bad hairline that he needs to do right to cover it up you know what I know Jay Chris remember when visit man got his head shaved and was it was durag vents with the ECW Championship that's what he's gonna do he's got to come out with a new rank their mixed martial arts Fighters right the Muay Thai guys it's mixed guys okay okay it's probably because of the fact that they realize that one FC or that damned one Championship is probably showing more toward more you know more favoritism towards certain Fighters like the Lees yeah than you know anybody else on the roster and that includes all the kickboxing and Muay Thai guys also so I also asked as well I think I know who one of them is going to be I bet you anything one of them Aoki is going to lead them and come to Epic Horizon Aoki does so uh and actually one of them is not him that's all I'll say uh Jay Wolfe uh who how do you think this law so you think wins do you think he grinds out a decision like he normally does do you think he can finish Kim well mostly I'm hoping this for a finish but it's probably gonna be a decision win and and but hopefully it's exciting I mean you never know and you said so uh so pause at this so I know he said if wins and uh Koji wins obviously do the third match between them for the uh does the other does Koji still have the Riser belts or am I yes okay um do you do it for the rising belt do you think you you have okubo versus kyoji for the for the rise of belt yes absolutely why not absolutely come to think of it while we are on that discussion you know should we talk about the main event before talking about the Grand Prix fights I'm happy to do that yeah after uh but we'll do that a little bit more done with this fight um so but then I ask as well so Soul true Kim wins and then kyoji wins Jay Wolfe do you then have Kim fight for Gucci for the belt sure I mean if that's what they want to do I mean sure I mean depending on how how uh Kim if he wins how he does it is it exciting is it a boring decision you know who knows so I mean if that's what they want to do they want to give him a title shot off a beating here mosso because I'll be a huge win for him to see your muscle like I said he's on a good streak he wouldn't won the Grand Prix the great fighter you know that so it would be justified you know I mean but it depends on how he wins if he wins in like a boring you know help Fest decision where he doesn't use any of the superior rule set strikes no grounded knees no 126 elbows nothing then I I wouldn't no but if he wins an exciting fashion yes well all the other thing you got to take into account is that also Kim's you know like I said he has wins over legit people former champion in one current uh Road FC featherweight Champion as well so do you think those credentials have any sort of bearing on giving him a tile shot uh Google because if you think about it it's going to be just like that first fight he had against Mikey Linares he's just gonna come there and get the check and that's it go back to South Korea well then you came for the checks those people but I think I he's generally not a guy who goes for a finish that's see here's the thing I think it's the same thing but does it in a little bit more of an exciting way I think uh he's not afraid to go into deep War as well to me from what I've seen with Seoul true Kim is that he kind of just uh he kind of just goes for the bare minimum to get that win and that's worse I think I I I don't like to see the bare minimum um I'm hoping that there's no yellow cards in this fight as well for for inactivity uh that was another reason on an exciting fight and then the Grand Prix didn't he which Grand Prix he kind of uh he he he out he out grappled and and basically you know also yeah I I don't want discounts win against Kai but Kyle's became that [ __ ] into that thing with a broken hand so you know I that definitely was a factor why Kai also Kyle was not at his best I mean that's also Kai that's been an issue for Kai for a long time uh Jacob either says Mighty Mouse to Verizon no no no no no no no no definitely um uh Jay Chris I'll throw it to you who do you think wins this fight and how you think it goes oh it's pretty much easy I think that okay Kubo is going to win this fight and I think he's gonna eke out another decision because when you think about it yeah social Kim won his last I think let's see social kill won nine of his last 10 fights that much is understanding including of course the Mikey Linares fight that was all the way back on New Year's Eve 2015 but that's beside the point I still think that Okie Kubo has what it takes to become a champion in Bryson I do not I cannot say the same for social Kim because he's already a champion in World FC twice over by the way and he has already solidified himself being the first ever one MC you know bantamweight or Federal Way I think this was before they had the weight fluctuation beings but bantamweight champion of course still though point of the matter is I think that Oogie Kubo is going to eke out of the decision and I think the next fight for him might be on New Year's Eve maybe against Roy Gucci for the title maybe not but still though yeah around this time next year we will see hiramasoki Kubo as the new Verizon bantamweight champion of the world uh yeah I have to I agree with I think we're on a group it's unanimously uh decision agreement kind of like how this fight will probably go and that we all think okubo is gonna yeah he's gonna win it probably by decision um and uh if let's connect that with the main event kyoji Hora Gucci versus kintaro um and so yeah you know I definitely I think the idea is to have Oogie Kubo win Koji went get a win and then you have their third is that the third match or the fourth match I think it'll be first you said third match right I think it would be the third okay yeah yeah it's definitely a third match um uh so uh yeah and so but I mean that the question is though is can can kyoji be kintaro now here's a question with his last performances his last losses in in Bellator listen give credit where he was he was winning that's the pedest fight before he got knocked out and patchy mixed really overwhelmed him over the size uh I think though I think maybe three or four years ago he beats patchy mix I really do believe that even finishes him potentially but uh Jay Wolfe do you think do you think kyoji coming you know when Fighters lose and they always say so what was it um I forgot who said it after the Kamara Usman knockout but someone said that that's like a career changing knockout and I'm almost tempted to kind oh okay wolf disappeared and now it's back in sorry can we hear him Jay wolf what happened to you came over here Jay Wolfe yes can you hear me oh yes I was asking you a question that was all here sorry I want to hit the device my device uh uh dropped the the I don't know what happened oh no problem no problem so I want to say so you know one of the things about I forgot who said it about the Kamara Usman John Edwards uh knockout was that that was like a career changing knockout and I'm 10 I'm kind of in agreement that maybe that Pettis knockout was as well do you and and now and then he had the loss against patchy mix after is is does kyoji ha do you put kyoji's chances very high in this fight as Oppo now as opposed to like maybe five or six years ago where we'd probably all be like oh yeah kyoji's gonna destroy kintaro here can you hear can you guys still hear me now yeah we can hear you okay good sorry I just had to switch devices real quick here so the question is you think is is kyoji gonna beat given given the context of his losses that that knockout against Pettis the loss against Patrick do you think that that where do you put kyoji's chances at beating kintaro now I think they're pretty high I mean he's going to want to come back from those losses and and you know he's and he's in Japan so he's going to want to perform great in Japan in front of his basically it's like home crowd you know what I mean so I think he's got great chances to be honest with you because he's a great fighter just because he got a couple of those losses I mean dude he was beating Pettis he was dominating Pettis before not spinning back this knockout and then the patchy mixed fight you know he arguably beat patchy mix just they were just giving they gave patchy mixed a fight because I think they overrated the backpack move you know what I mean but I mean some people had that as a draw at worst for him so I mean I look you know but but they did go down as losses you know he got knocked out by Pettis and he lost his decision versus patching mix so he is on a losing streak right now but those were not like it's like one-sided lopsided losses you know what I mean so I don't think he's like I don't think he's declined as much and I just don't think kintaro's got well you never know I mean but look I I think Koji is going to be able to bring it he's in he's in Japan he's gonna he's gonna be this is not for the bandwid title is it no it's not title okay oh it's a non-title fight so that's gonna be some pressure off of him right there he's not he doesn't have to worry about losing his belt if he loses so it's that's gonna be a little less pressure they're saying he's gonna bring it dude I think he's going to bring it he wants to snap his streak and he's going to want to get back in the winning column and and he's going to do it in Great in a sensational fashion he's going to want to Cherry this card and he's just is it's going to be fun I just can't wait how do you think he beats uh kintaro if he doesn't knock him out he submits them I think it's a finish yes uh what do you think what do you put kintaro's chances of beating kyoji I mean he's it there's got to be a chance there because like like you said gilji is on a losing streak right now so he's here's the other interesting as well sorry interrupt to Jay but they're both on Lucy streaks that's the other thing that's interesting about this right they're both on losing streaks okay so they're both want to give they both want to snap their streaks here and they want to get back in the win column so I mean you gotta you gotta give them a chance because I mean it's I I just don't think it's gonna happen but you never know I mean this is a fight that's why that's what he'll put on the fights so we'll see but he definitely has a chance but I just think coyote is going to be too much for him he's too good of a fighter and you know he just it's gonna be awesome I can't wait to see it and then it's going to set up I think it's going to set up for the third Trilogy about with uh Hiram also for the for the title after this but if kintaro beats kyoji you then have to to to squash squash those plans and then you're adapting the rebatch for the title this time put the title on the line if kintaro beats him right here then he has to get the rematch for the title I I think um also credits arising you know this is something you've never seen in UFC I don't think Bellator would do it as well but you know having two people who are on losing streaks Main Event your card I think no no I don't mean that I actually that's a compliment because that means they trust these two guys big enough to Main Events and also it makes it interesting because like you said Jay Wolfe they both want to win and until ryzen has actual uh whatever rankings whatever I think this is how this is the perfect way to book a fight when you have fighters on Two fighters on Lucy streaks two big names kintaro bring in the Osaka tattooed crowd in and then Koji will bring in obviously you know Koji crowd and then now you have an interesting dynamic between guys who have lost and they want somebody else to come out a winner I think that's interesting I know a lot of people [ __ ] on you know losers in MMA sometimes the more interesting fires are the guys who have been losing you know that's I don't know I know that's you know I mean come to think of it look at felony Charles Bennett for instance oh I mean okay that's an extreme example you know I I get what you're saying Chris I get what you're saying it's just it's it's just at least give rise and credit for for putting these two against each other and Main Eventing uh because listen UFC would never have two fighters who are on losing streaks face each other at least for a numbered show maybe a TV fight ESPN thing I don't know maybe highly unlikely but this is what ryzen does and I have no problem with it I think it's great booking in my opinion plus kyoji is a star there he I mean he's I was seeing some Japanese fans saying that he's he's still the face of ryzen oh yeah um when they did when they had uh him come to do an auger session at the um ryzen store irip where it used to be oh yeah they got a huge crowd there they got a huge crowd there so um uh so yeah definitely you know it's they definitely trust both of them to bring in uh a crowd and so uh uh Jake Rich I'm gonna throw it to you now uh how do you think this fight goes who's the one who snaps the losing streak I think it'll be kyoji right I mean Verizon did not get this competitor back from Bellator just to see him lose I mean it's pretty much the reason why you know this is even happening why kyoji has even brought back to Verizon because they want to get him a good enough win against I wouldn't say a good enough fighter you've told kintaro hokumulo is a decent fighter at 14 11 and 2. it's just the fact that this fight it's gonna probably get people invested in kyogi again before he comes back to the U.S or in some cases back to Bellator to headline show down the line I agree I agree so by the way I think that this fight is going to end either via third round TKO or decision interesting interesting uh by kyoji you mean right yeah win for kyogi by the way gotcha gotcha can we also say it can we see how awesome it is that Bellator is allowing kyoji to come here and headline this event while still under contract with Bellator that's pretty cool that's pretty cool Scotty Cokes and Bellator and I I mean I don't count this as a collaboration belt but I mean technically it is technically it is a collaboration about because he's technically he's under contract with Bellator right now and they're they're having him main event this card so I mean it's it it's a it's a collaboration belt I mean and he's still he's still the the rise and champ so I mean it's just I think it's just awesome all around awesome I just love it is a hard guy to finish though you know I mean he's been finished and well I was very fights but he hasn't been finished lately you know the and I I'm curious to see what kyoji is going to bring in terms of what you know against kintal is really not pretty striking but his ability to knock out people uh striking um I don't know what the hell to call it uh powerful striking power striking um yeah I think Yoji will win this I think he's just the bull overall better fighter uh MMA fire I mean it is MMA fight though so who knows [ __ ] always can happen uh but I think I think you know if Koji can't submit him he can at least get out of the decision win uh for uh uh in the end uh and you know it would be great you know it'll be great to see either one of these guys you know get off the uh the elcom into the wincom I think also the thing is that do you if Koji wins this oh sorry loses does this does this make you doubt his do you I mean you know people are saying Tony Ferguson needs to retire now after five losses do you think that this we go we start to Veer into that into that territory of where kyoji might need to retire hell no absolutely not like I was saying those those other two losses he was dominating the pedest fight and he arguably got worse the draw with patchy mix on some people's scorecards so they were not like horrible losses and if you know if this one is a horrible loss like it loses by like soccer kick or stomp or something brutal knockout finish then I still would not think he should retire I think that you know is he even 35 yet I think he's just about 35 maybe here you know here's a crazy thing though not that a coyotes in a series kintaro is only 29. oh no sorry I saw kyoji's 31 excuse me uh yeah okay no hell no no way she should not retire even if he loses brutally even if kataro finishes him brutally in this fight there's no way he should retire absolutely not the guy is still he's not even 35 yet I mean he's just he's a great fighter there's just no no way no no way should he retire absolutely not I'll pose the same direction to you Jay Chris what do you if if tension of attention if if kyoji she loses I don't think it's time to pull the plug on him I think that he's going to you know probably go back to Bellator with a loss probably go back to American top team in Coconut Creek Florida with a loss but he'll learn from that I mean it's like you said I mean it's like in a way you just realize he's only 31. he's not really a flash in the pan he's not really a bust he's a star still I mean he's been a star since he's been in the UFC you're right he's he's young but he's also been fighting for a long time that's the other thing he's like he's 31 in MMA years is much older than a lot of other people just because of how long he's been fighting so I'm not I you know I won't be in the uh issue attire thing I hate when people do that because we don't it's like when people say oh Tony Ferguson he's retired I don't think he needs to listen this whole idea that like the fans need to need to tell people or or you know commentators do you tell people oh you you know you need to retire you know once it gets into I think the the the the when it comes to retiring once you start getting to like BJ pen level near the end of his UFC you're screwed that's when you start saying retire I don't even think or like Chuck Liddell Chuck Liddell level or like you know what I mean stuff like that that's when you say okay it's time to retire but you're absolutely right even Ferguson's losses I don't think are retirement because he lost against people that are some of the best fighters in the world in La class and kyoji you know Pettis is no slouch you know Pettis in in like you said jail if he was losing the fight up until that that thing but nonetheless Penn is still beat him patchy mix my senior is a draw but he got you know he got the win over that but I think he beats him five five years before and I think he beats patchy mix any day of the week and then yeah so I don't think you know unless he starts getting knocked out in the next three fights he has then I don't think we need to talk about retirement at all I really don't think so I think that's that's presumptuous talk um before we go on to the the Grand Prix okay Anna wants to know uh sorry for going off topic no that's fine we always go off topic Anna no problem at all but uh are you are we looking forward to the next event for rise in October that's the wise World Series that will be made invented by Kazuki osaki versus kazane uh Jay Wolfe I'm not you can go ahead and talk about that okay uh jaywalk are you are you paying attention to the right show in October oh yes uh I do pay attention to them when I can I don't go out of my way because they don't they don't they're not like K1 where they do eight man one night Grand Prix so those are those are really the kickboxing belts that I really pay attention to but I do watch The Rise events and sometimes the next day because they they you know they they upload them right away so I mean also they're not dicks like they're also not dicks like K1 and like you know require VPN to watch their shows yeah exactly right and they'll call up their shows in the middle of of the [ __ ] show you know or whatever they did okay one did for the recent uh show that they had where it got it was horrible you know what they did they they got us they did tease us to where they had this great eight man one night Grand Prix happening and they're right as the semifinals were about to begin the entire quarterfinals are all finishes and great fights and they're right as the semifinals about to start they cut it off is run by maniacal tyrants as well I don't like their business model I think it's very old-fashioned but they want to do that that's fine I don't care they don't make any outreaches to us so I just basically don't care about their shows and then I among that the Watcher shows of VPN sorry it's like too bad but they're the only ones with balls to do the eight man one night Grand Prix which are the freaking some of the most awesome books and you know I think on uh on high kicks and arm bars the I think it was Babu Jack or the dog man one of them made the good point that like not necessarily the best fighter wins It's usually the one who's the healthiest wins which is a good point eight man one night Grand one grand prix's favorite finishers period and and usually the best finisher is usually the one that wins but I mean it's not even about it's about how much fun they are the one night Grand Prix are they're some of the most fun events in Combat Sports and I wish ryze would start doing them you know they do four man every every once in a while which is cool but it's just not as cool as eight man one less likely for fuck-ups to happen before man usually it's just it's just not as much fun I'm telling you the there's something about the three fights three full fights in one night it's just it's just fun it's just it's Sensational I also just at least I also just quickly say yes I'm looking forward to it the the Osaka shows World Series whatever you want to call them are always great Yama is on the card taking on taiju and not converting uh Chad Collins is back Tyga is doing back on the wincom I also know Anna your favorite show Ogawa is also on the car as well um and then you got Shiro Matsumoto and koki osaki who did they fight or they I think they were supposed to fight right uh but then I think kokiyosaki did not make weights he was supposed to be the alternate I remember I know you explained I think it was you explained that whole thing in a comments and I'm I'm still I can't remember it entirely off the top of my head uh about the whole alternate thing um so yeah and kazane the next star of Captain Jim main Eventing so it's definitely going to be a great show if they have it on fights it'll be great if not you know listen I know they'll open upload it on YouTube you know yeah yeah that's awesome that's a great thing is that you know that they're always reliable and then they're always going to upload their [ __ ] as well and it's also easier if yaman's fighting that's definitely a must-see bout absolutely so yes yes Anna we will be paying attention to that the next rise card for sure uh and so with that we do come to well I guess we're going opposite direction so we'll kind of the ends uh yeah well actually in well almost because let's just talk about this as a whole the rising women super animate Grand Prix was supposed to feature Reyna Kubota but because of the injury she sustained in her fight with Anastasia little tiger species will be taking her place against Sega isawa meanwhile ayaka hamasaki the old lady of the group The Uncle this competitor still active in this Grand Prix will take on Cebu Park who's just been a giant killer so to speak so I just gotta ask who's gonna win these two fights and who is going to win the tournament final when this wraps up on New Year's Eve well I guess well you mean like who will make it to the final okay Chris yeah who's gonna make it to the final on New Year's Eve Eve gotcha great uh J wolf oh I think I'm hoping for I'm hoping for Sikh isawa I think she's just a sensational you can't even call her a prospect anymore but I mean she's just a sensational star fighter star in the making fighter I mean Superstar blooming before our eyes that's why they call her star flower I guess she's a superstar blooming right before our eyes here but this is just a great fighter so I'm really looking forward to that match you know and then the other one you know yakahama Saka you know is is a great great OG fighter as well I mean I I saw her live in Invicta before you know and and just she's just a great fighter but and then see woo Park you know she's she's on the up and coming fires right there I don't I do not agree that she beat Rayna in her previous bout but hey you know well no I mean before the Grand Prix she she beat Rayna and I just did not agree with that decision and you know it's disappointing that Reina got injured but maybe they can have Reina be you know an alternate you know in case one of these Fighters gets hurt who knows he has a she has uh what is it an orbital injury that's like but I thought they said that it wasn't that bad and that she could be uh possibly on a New Year's Eve card geez I don't know what what's what's the what's the I don't know like what's the measure of like I'm not bad orbital injury I'm just a small fracture like just like a small fracture or or you know not like an actual like break I guess that's better but it's still an eye injury like that's stuff that's like it's at least three months and it's September this is gonna be end of September she may not she may be better but she may not be even cleared by then and maybe one of those Vice where her I will be feel better but then she can't take any sort of impact to it because it'll just re-break much more easily so that's yeah you're right yeah you're right you should hold her out until next year then because you're right eye injuries are no no jokes and not something to mess around with hey maybe we get Anna Anna Banana be the the alternate for the Grand Prix oh yes yeah Listen by all means yeah listen you know let's get Anna to be I I have no problem listen I would much prefer to see her than uh Floyd Mayweather versus mikaru you know at this point so yeah yeah listen get Anna Banana to have a have a fight and rise and uh yeah of course of course that would be fun but Jay Wolfe you're basically saying you want to see the rematch between seika and zawa and ayakahama you know what I I actually actually no I I think that I think that's what's gonna happen but I think that I would rather see Seiki Zava versus newer uh fresh you know matchups so I would I would personally like to see sikizawa versus siwu Park in the final yeah I think that's also the kind of thing that sucks about this I think they were banking so they were going to do Reina versus seika as you said and I think listen and I think that's you know I you know I don't think you you could count Reyna easily out of that fight that's uh and so the oh I think ryzen at this at the behest and sacrifice of getting of having seika lose what we wanted to do ayaka and Reina because they said that they would never fight each other because they're teammates long time friends and teammates and they said the only way to fight is if it's in the final so you know now the likelihood of that fight is very very very very very very very very very very very tiny um so I don't think it's gonna happen uh as you know anyway I think that you know so now you're you all you do now run the risk so between if ayaka wins or siwu Park wins and then Seiko wins you then run the risk of hap is that your final is going to be a rematch I think I think for the seawood park is a little bit different because I was in deep Jewels or deep or whatever so that is you know that was a while ago you know I'm pretty sure you know what however many people in saitama did not see that and but then you have the hamazaki which is already two matches in you know one but I think both the one happened this year and then what happened New Year's Eve so it's barely a year you know this is kind of like old school where like you know we're like wanderlay and Rampage would have like a fight almost every year you know type thing but I think that was a different era um so I mean like so I I so Jay Wolfe what do you think so what's that so let's let's first take talk about uh Anastasia you think she's a good replacement did she deserve to take reina's place or should they have gone with somebody totally different no no I agree with that replacement she put on excellent performance against Arena you know she probably had the best performance of any of the losers of the Grand Prix quarterfinals she really did I I was at Daniel I think Daniel from Poland said that he was it was it him or somebody else who said that like oh if this had been under unified rules he would be the winner and I don't know if I agree with that but I at least can understand that she's the one who put up the biggest fights yeah yeah absolutely well I mean others there are no there's no way she beat rain I don't think so I mean I'm biased for Reina but I'm with you she didn't beat her under the you know the the rising rule set or the unified rules set you know we're judging it by round by round and the rising rule sets of fight as a whole so she didn't beat Rayna under any of those so but she did put up an excellent fight you know what I mean and she put the best fight up of any of the the people that did not advance in the quarterfinals so I think that was a great replacement you know and and again but they should have had like Jay Chris was saying on a couple of other shows dude they should have had alternates every Grand Prix yeah whatever reason they don't do alternates anymore I don't know why it's because this one was not a one night Grand Prix final Pride style that they normally do so you know that's why I didn't have it all from this time but they gotta have alternates no matter what even if it's not a one-night Grand Prix final so just they'll they'll they'll next year you'll see they'll go back to normal they'll have one night Grand Prix finals Pride style you'll have alternates everything it'll be fine so it's just this this this grumpy right here just the one-off basically two two and kind of think of it I for one am hoping to see a rematch between Seiki izawa and ayaka hamasaki assuming they will get past these two fights coming up I mean who knows maybe it might be siebel Park versus sick it's out in a deep Jules battle but still that's what I'm hoping to win on Sunday is that one hamasaki so they can battle up on New Year's Eve but a third time but here's the ironic part this is still being built just like Japan versus foreigners let's just say for the odd let's just say for some odd reason specs keeps go and park beat is our one hamasaki respectively how do you think a final between the only two foreigners left in this tournament will plan out I mean would pan out oh that's an interesting question uh Jay Wolfe what do you think about that that'd be awesome if it happened but I just don't see it happening it's just too good I mean she's a superstar in the making so I just don't see Anastasia being able to beat her I mean see we parked well is on on quite a rhyme right now so I could see her best scene hamasaki but at the same time oh yeah I still I just don't think it's going to happen either I think it's going to be a rematch with hamasaki on New Year's but you know to for for Jay Christian's point you know this is being built as as you know a foreigner in Japan versus the world basically yeah I mean if the if the foreigners win it's it's still going to be an awesome final I mean because then they'll have those big wins over over a huge you know Japanese women names so it's like that'd be a great final as well but I just don't see that happening really I mean you know like I said CK is always a superstar in the making and I I don't I don't know if seal Park's gonna be good enough to beat hamasaki I mean but we'll see I mean that's why they have the fights oh so a DG asked any chance she runs a table and uh just clarifying me which of the fires you mean do you mean uh uh oh DJ also says that uh then any chance she runs a table uh sorry can you clarify who would you mean by she wants a table um yeah she could definitely run the table absolutely no okay um so so Jay Wolfe so pick how you think these two fights are gonna go how you see them going I think hamasaki by you know submission but you never know I mean like I said civil Park and she just that her fight with Connor and the quarterfinals was a sensational performance she she beat her I mean just she beat her handily you know grounded knees use a superior rule set just excellent fight you know so I mean we could see a repeat of that you know see who Park I mean she showed great you know defensive grappling defensive wrestling you utilizing those grounded knees and everything so I mean it's just we'll see I mean hamasaki is no spring chicken herself so maybe she you know she's declined a little bit so maybe see who Park and pull off the upset and if not I mean I I see hamasaki being able to to submitter I mean because she's that good of a fighter still see and for the for the main event or the Cobain event with uh siki azawa try to see I mean she's a superstar to me and you know I just I'm really impressed with her she's a really impressive uh female fighter and just I I see her finishing Anastasia I mean she's she's that good and probably the Finish will be by submission if not I mean I mean maybe she could do uh you know Reina couldn't finish her with strikes so I don't know if zawa be able to finish her with strikes but you never know I mean it's it's going to be a good one for sure either way but I definitely see uh you know I could see izavo beating her by submission yeah is I was not a striker by trade so I I think it's highly unlikely she does beat uh uh and Stage that way potentially remember that's how izawa beat hamasaki was with those Up Kicks remember from the ground Thunder uh no she had to try the third well you talk about second five of the first fights uh the first five was the Up Kicks right up kick stunned her oh and then she got her down the ground and choked her out right okay yeah I think no I think she got her a triangle choke and then did ground and pound to her I think maybe I think the cupcakes maybe have hadn't had an effect file I don't recall the up kick are you thinking the Oshima Kana fight it was definitely izawa doing up Kicks and it Iraq tamasaki and and he she was able to and she hamasaki never recovered from the Up Kicks gotcha okay and then you're definitely right you're definitely right I I uh you definitely would know better than me because uh that was I I have to re-watch that fight because I think I definitely know you're right about that Jay wolf uh so okay DG clarified he wants to know they want to know any chance that Anastasia runs a table no I don't know that that'd be that'd be pretty difficult I mean of course there's always a chance you know but I just don't see that happening I mean he's always a superstar and for a good reason she's a great fighter and I just don't see Anastasia being able to beat her and she does and then that'd be incredible and then she you know maybe she does run the table who knows that'd be an amazing that'd be amazing story if it happens and then it would set up a rematch with Reina out after you know New Year's if she's able to to run the table and win the Grand Prix I mean that'd be an amazing story amazing story lines we come from it but they also said that uh then then they'll have two Japanese fighters in the alternates for the finals uh if uh if she runs the table June Kade says though Park train Japan at uh crazy P by the way I think the public attention is more Anastasia from the point she's from Ukraine and also had a good potential uh from Reign about and yeah yeah you know remember basically what June K is trying to say is Anastasia Spectra has tremendous upside so to speak hey remember at the end remember she and Reina held the Ukraine flag together uh and it was definitely you know it was definitely was I guess as they say a moment it was a moment uh between the two and Rising uh Jay critch I'm throwing over to you I think you kind of did you kind of did give uh how how yeah I kind of gained my predictions on how I mean I kind of gave my predictions as to who was gonna win I didn't say by how though yeah go ahead I mean obviously this is probably these two fights are probably gonna Envy a submission back to back and I think that the fight the finals will probably end in the same way but knows maybe hamasaki will get a revenge and we can see a fort fight for the title um I think a four or five you mean a third fight right is that third fight yeah third fight in the finals okay a fight then in April or May for the title okay gotcha gotcha um I mean think about it well here's the if these two are fighting off the files I would just make it for the title anyway I would I would waste time you know going a few months later right exactly um deal though it's like it's like I said before you know this is the theater of the unexpected this being MMA not just boxing so you know if a fight between and if Anastasia and civil Park do somehow pull off the upsets and in the case of Anastasia it would be probably the biggest upset for a European women's MMA fighter in Japan I do think that that particular fight Park versus spetskiewska will open up some highs um so I love chaos I love when when [ __ ] doesn't go to plan I think there I think Verizon's definitely Bank on Seiko to win um probably against ayaka um I'll also say this though you know I think that Cebu parked look here's the thing I don't think SeaWorld Park's gonna fall into the Trap of of getting submitted by ayaka I really don't think so um and the way that park has looked so far she looked amazing and especially on the stand up and that's where uh that's where ayaka's uh weakness is always if she has had any sort of weakness it's that is is on the stand up and especially compared to somebody like civil Park and I love ayaka but man I don't like this is going to be a tough one I think I gotta pick Park to go forward just based on how good she looks she I'll say I think parked looked better in her win against Kana than than ayako looked in her win against um against Jessica Aguilar so I think I definitely think that I I based that I'll base that on my pick here park uh to go forward now when it comes to seika and uh Anastasia man imagine just like imagine the [ __ ] that would just go down of Anastasia one wouldn't that be like cool wouldn't it would you like a j or would you be like [ __ ] God be devastated yeah no I like you zawa a lot so I I would be a devastating loss for me but I mean it'd be cool for you guys because you you like Drew said you like the chaos and you know fans like that it's pretty interesting we can do con we can do we could do psycha ayaka a year from now and I'll still be excited then you know it no in this case you know if it's a Grand Prix you know Verizon has no you can't not not do it unless one of them gets injured so you have to do it but like yeah I think you know and plus I don't know how much ayaka is going to fight you know how much longer um to tell you the truth I'll tell you you know what [ __ ] it I want the Anastasia win has more to gain from winning than seika has from losing against Anastasia and you know what come on this is a feel-good story I'm I'm all behind the feel of good stories I love feel good stories in MMA you know she she lost the fight against Reina she's from the Ukraine she's doing all that [ __ ] that's in the Ukraine she gets the uh gets another opportunity to fight in ryzen um I think Daniel may have made a mention that she looked like she wasn't like training seriously for the arena fight I'm hoping she trains seriously for this life because I think it's I think seika is definitely a tougher fight than uh Rayna I'm gonna say that anasty I don't know how you know I'll say Decision One whatever and I'll say a Cebu park I think that civil Park will will out will outmaneuver ayaka on the feet to go ahead to win so I'm gonna you guys are here for me Anastasia going on to the Horizon Adam wait GP files against Cebu Park I'm putting my money where in my mouth is I want I want to see I want to see a non-traditional fight I want to see I want to see a a a a ball to the wall Bonkers final and I mean you know the international audience would be all over it I'll say this as well guess what you could do for the alternate Jay wolf what ayaka versus seika okay no no just as an alternate for the finals as well if a DG you're saying you know hey if it's Tarkin Anastasia in the finals uh then hey do do ayaka and seika well they they don't need an alternate for for the finals tonight I mean they're gonna have an alternate it's got to be on one of these next upcoming cards in October because oh yeah that's true oh yeah I forgot yeah they're not doing it oh yeah so yeah okay I just you could do the fight anytime so you know what I I do not say I do not want to say that I'm looking forward to izalo losing and she probably will not but I would rather see Anastasia win they just just don't bet on that because you're going to be disappointed I've been I've been I've been a fan of listen every time that rises brought in those Eastern European or just European fires like Lara Croft uh the Polish fighter uh or just these yeah these these randos from from like countries I've never heard of brihar's biggest uh and others it's just like you know kind of I like to see these these P these these these people being getting plucked from obscurity uh and getting the big the big the big showcases Rising um uh but I know we're really wondering all the time because I'm really tired so I'm just gonna pause it this question to you J well combined of these two cards which two fights are you looking forward to the most three I'm sorry three fights three fights three fights okay all right the number one top fight people's Main Event no question yuriohara versus Luis Gustavo that one is just my most anticipated bout and if it is not an action-packed bang Fest I'm gonna be disappointed and for two more uh let me see here we can't pick any from supervising right no you can't you can't it's like combined so think of it as one card and pick you know two uh two more fights collectively okay if there's none for if there's none from Super I totally get it no I'm actually looking forward to the exhibition with uh Mayweather and mikuru and you know I'm I'm really happy that they're doing that and that they combined the cards because I I think that it's going to be it's gonna carry over and there's going to be new fans exposed to the awesomeness of Epic rides and Superior rules set for 38 and and it's just it's they're going to be hooked in through the the maywether mccurdu exhibition and then they're going to discover how awesome Epic ryzen is with their Superior rules set for 38 and you know and just I'm so happy they got yuriohara versus Gustavo kicking off the 38 card so that's that's my number one belt right there and then I'll pick the Mayweather azakura for number two and then for number three Bell man I don't know that's a tough one I would I think I might go with hagiwara I don't know you know It's just tough between the girls or kyoji or izawa I don't know there's there's so many good ones on this card it's just I mean even the big boy about you know she besai versus the the kickboxing crossover Brazilian I mean I don't know okay I'll go find them but I'm gonna go hogiwara still you know I just I just like him he's just a great fighter incited by inside outside the ring I just I wanted to get another win you know get off that losing streak so I'll go with that one for sure so those are my three I'm sorry jay Chris outside the respective main events for both parts of this card so outside of Miku versus Mayweather which everybody is going to be looking forward to around the world and outside of boy Gucci Versus kintaro yuto hokumula which we the die hards are going to be looking forward to I'm going to be looking I I for one am not going to be looking forward to any of the supervising cards outside the main event let's be real the main three fights I'm gonna be looking forward to are all on the ryzen 38 car and that'd be the heavyweight fight the open weight fight between show Miss GB sign and Kelly you gilbride Olive aka the Juggernaut and I'm most definitely looking forward to the Grand Prix the Grand Prix semifinal fights hamasaki versus Park and he's out with versus Anastasia Spitz keepska uh Andrew what say you so I'll be fair I'll always pick one one fight from supervisor and that's cozy versus Jizzy because I'm just like I'm just gonna be I'm I'm so perplexed by how this fight will go I'm I really I legitimately don't know how this fight's gonna go and I'm I'm I am it's kind of this is like the car crash this is like you know you know driving slowly to look at a car crash but I'm worried I mean come to think of it dude you live right near The Cross Bronx Expressway so I've also used to car crash but you know they always say you know oh people you know looking at a car crash it's interesting until you see the dead bodies so it's like I'm kind of I'm really I'm I don't know what the outcome will be so like I'm so like I I I worry about the outcome but I'm I'm so curious to see the fight I have to I have to I have to admit that then obviously because Roger 38 is just a better whatever ajiriohara who is Gustavo and you know what I'm really looking forward to uh seika zawa uh Sega I was always posting uh making a great fight and uh I'm really interested to see what Anastasia does because I'm presuming uh that I'm hoping that she's trained for this fight she realizes listen the odds are that she wouldn't have got a second opportunity Horizon this quickly you know maybe down the line perhaps but certainly not this quickly so I hope she realizes the I always want to say the gift that your gift of rain is injury time put upon her and that she realizes okay this is oh much tougher fight I have to come in with a game plan to beat izawa and I hope she realizes that so that's why I'm looking for this fight because I'm hoping that we see uh we see that type of Anastasia versus Anastasia we saw in the arena fights uh that basic [ __ ] says Jizzy sent you [Laughter] is hearing Lenny Hart saying yeah is he gonna go like gee is she gonna go like dizzy I'm so curious to know how is she going to go about this and like I really like I'm like I'm so again I'm just I don't know what's gonna happen with that thing that's why it's so interesting um okay Crystal we have to really head out of here so I have to ask you to kind of do a speed run of the uh of the uh ending uh ending uh yeah and yeah close things out basically put yourselves over without actually putting yourselves over Jay Wolfe they can find you on Twitter at j-a-y-o-l-f-1 right correct yes and I would just like to ask all the fans please actually buy the pay-per-view on fight TV or like I'm gonna do on DirecTV and be part of history that that you know epic bars and Japanese let me go ahead and tell y'all right now if y'all only expecting to see what goes on at right at Super Rising and not watch Verizon 38 you're a sellout for yourselves because this event is going to be shown around the world in so many different languages and so many different countries that it'll make you flip your lid but in North America in particular you can check the event out on all different pay-per-views on all different cables satellite and Telco providers for me it would be Comcast Xfinity down here in Houston for Andrew it would be Optimum Cable in New York 4K well it would be Direct TV but it's available audition it's available through in-demand events it's available on Dish it's available on well it should be available on Suddenlink not that I care but Sean fail basically all these cable satellite and Telco providers but most importantly it'll be available to watch on fight TV for the low low low low low low low price of 30 bucks or 50 bucks if you got the bundle but still though it's going to be 30 or 30 bucks there is no bundle it's all 30 bucks for both shows so you you pay 30 bucks you're gonna get both super ryzen and 38. that's why it's like dude you guys you gotta actually buy the pay-per-view and support epic Horizon and the superior rule set as well for those that were bitching that you want to fight ryzen to be back on fight this is your opportunity put your money where your mouth is yeah if they're not in the future buy the show on fight so that you know okay if you buy says you've all bought the show now since you know all 100 of you bought the show that means they'll definitely be on fight in the future or whatever you know yes support the official release buy the event on fight it's 30 bucks you won't want to miss out on some great action even if you only watch the Mayweather portion you will not miss out on this great action known as the rise in fight Confederation and it's all courtesy adult Jacobs of integrated Sports pay-per-view which is based out of Canada I think but still though point of the matter is Jay wolf they can follow you on Twitter at Jay wolf one it's misspelled that's how you know it's me and not somebody else that's been his house been since all the way back in like 06 or 07 when 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