Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:15 PM
what if one of the languages i speak isn't technically identified as its own language at the moment?
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:15 PM
is it a dialect?
what language is this
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:16 PM
not really
its spoken in azerbaijan and it has some azerbaijani roots but most of the vocabulary is different
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:16 PM
what about the grammar?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:16 PM
but people are like "no that's just azerbaijani you dumb shit"
the grammar i think is the same almost
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:17 PM
if you were to speak this to a native, monolingual azerbaijani speaker, would they be able to understand most of it?(edited)
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:17 PM
not most, at all
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:17 PM
where is this language spoken
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:17 PM
azerbaijan
or somewhere in the caucasus
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:17 PM
more specifically
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:17 PM
i dont know
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:18 PM
hmm
do you speak azerbaijani?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:18 PM
i just know my mom comes from azerbaijan and she speaks it
not the azerbaijani that everyone knows, no
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:18 PM
i mean
when you listen to people speak it
can you understand most of what they say
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:18 PM
no
i will know how to spell the words, but i will not understand what they say
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:18 PM
sounds perhaps like a closely related language
what do you call this language?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:19 PM
i dont know i just call it "ir ykəd"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:20 PM
does that have any other meanings in this language(edited)
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:20 PM
uhhh the "ir" does not really have meaning, but "ykəd" means "speech"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:21 PM
could "ykəd" also be translated as "language"(edited)
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:21 PM
ya
like "my language" can be "ykədmın"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:22 PM
is there an ethnic group associated with this language?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:22 PM
i dont know
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:22 PM
what is the religion of your family that speaks this language
if i may ask
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:23 PM
i dont have one
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:23 PM
what about your mother?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:23 PM
my dad is atheist and i think my mom is too
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:23 PM
what about your mother's parents?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:23 PM
im not sure i have never talked to them
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:23 PM
hmmm okay
do you know the word for "I" in this language
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:24 PM
"men"
I speak it fluently
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:25 PM
okay, that's good
so i notice "ykədmın" is "ykəd" plus "-mın", are all possessives formed this way?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:25 PM
ya
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:25 PM
alright
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:25 PM
like "ykədsız" is "your speech"
and "ykədım" is "his speech"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:26 PM
how do you say "you"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:26 PM
siz
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:26 PM
is "he" = "im"? ;P
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:26 PM
no
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:26 PM
damn
lol
what is it
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:26 PM
xd
o
it is "o"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:27 PM
so in the sentences
"he killed Ms. Smith"
and
"Ms. Smith killed him"
is he/him translated as "o" in both cases?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:28 PM
no
"o neş Smith pəlden"
and "neş Smith om pəlden"
close tho
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:29 PM
Is it in this paragraph? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Azerbaijan#Present
Languages of Azerbaijan
Although there are several languages native to the territory, Azerbaijani is the official language and the medium of communication of the Republic of Azerbaijan.

Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:29 PM
is the sentence "men om pəlden" grammatical?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:29 PM
yes mocha
MEE6BOT - Last Sunday at 10:29 PM
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Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:30 PM
interesting
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:30 PM
and qwertz i dont know
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:30 PM
what about "siz om pəlden"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:30 PM
no that's not
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:30 PM
how would you say it
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:30 PM
technically the first one sort of is
it üould be "men om pəldenim"
and "siz om pəldeniz"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:31 PM
alright
can i address two people using "siz"?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:31 PM
no
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:31 PM
how would you address them
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:31 PM
"sen"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:32 PM
can i use sen for three or more people as well
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:32 PM
no
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:32 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tat_language_(Caucasus)
Am I anywhere near?
Tat language (Caucasus)
The Tat language or Tat/Tati Persian or Tati (Tat: zuhun tati) is a Southwestern Iranian language related to, but not fully mutually intelligible with Persian and spoken by the Tats in Azerbaijan and Russia. Its written form is related to Middle ...

Or maybe one of these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Tat#Dialects
Judeo-Tat
Judeo-Tat or Juhuri (çuhuri / жугьури / ז'אוּהאוּראִ) is the traditional language of the Mountain Jews of the eastern Caucasus Mountains, especially Azerbaijan and Dagestan, now mainly spoken in Israel.
The language is a form o...
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:33 PM
Qwartz, i can confirm the affixes and pronouns are very similar to azerbaijanji
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:34 PM
Tat might be it, but i am not sure
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:34 PM
so it's gonna be related closely
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:34 PM
i have to see an excerpt or something
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:35 PM
Kryc and Cek are listed as part of the region but there are no examples or data on Wikipedia
(Kryts and Jek)
So those might be worth a shot too
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:36 PM
if the "c" in "kryc" is pronounced "ts" then its not mine
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:36 PM
how is the c pronounced in your language
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:36 PM
j
like a hard english "j"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:36 PM
alright
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:36 PM
but ir ykəd doesnt have many "c"s at all
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:37 PM
There's also Tati but I think Tat is closer??
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:37 PM
idk i have to see excerpts to confirm
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:37 PM
ok
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:37 PM
yo shta how do you say "brother" in ir ykəd
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:37 PM
krasek
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:38 PM
how about "snow"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:38 PM
ynü
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:38 PM
is there anything preventing this from being a candidate? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udi_language
Udi language
The Udi language, spoken by the Udi people, is a member of the Lezgic branch of the Northeast Caucasian language family. It is believed an earlier form of it was the main language of Caucasian Albania, which stretched from south Dagestan to curre...
like the alphabet?
i'm looking for a Tat excerpt
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:39 PM
how do you say "mother" in ykədsız
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:39 PM
nasek
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:39 PM
why did it have to be a caucasian language... T_T
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:40 PM
what is that supposed to mean xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:40 PM
there's like 999999 languages in the caucasus
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:40 PM
truth
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:40 PM
so this is going to be hard to identify
men om pəldeniram = I am killing him?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:41 PM
men om pəldim
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:41 PM
fuck, okay, hypothesis incorrect lol
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:41 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:42 PM
how familiar are you with azerbaijani
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:42 PM
i cant understand it
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:42 PM
welp nvm then lol
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:42 PM
except for very few words
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:42 PM
i will kill him = ???
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:43 PM
https://youtu.be/lRGUAfJci2U
Anything close? Familiar bits or nothing?
YouTube
VOICE OF TAT
Lahic Ismayilli - Zühun Tati ( Tat Language Caucasia )

Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:43 PM
like "qorxu" is "fear" in azerbaijani, vvhen "qorşu" is "fear" in ykədmın
i vvill kill him = men om pəldiməyəm
agh the vvay they say those vvords is so disgusting
but no i dont understand them
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:45 PM
okay yeah definitely related somehow to azerbaijani, these declensions are uncanny
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:45 PM
"these declensions are uncanny" -mocha 2018
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:45 PM
does "onlar" mean anything in ykədsız
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
ya it means "they"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
okay good
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
close to it
"onlı"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
okay slightly less good but still good
xD
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:47 PM
"I am not killing him" = "men om pəldmenim"???
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:48 PM
I am not killing him = men om pəldüyim
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:48 PM
fuq
x3
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:48 PM
xd
also ykədmın has no vvriting system as far as i knovv im just using an azerbaijani keyboard to match the sounds
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:49 PM
oh boy
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:49 PM
sounds fun lol
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:49 PM
i've noticed your fun double-Vs
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:49 PM
because i dont have a w key unless i switch keyboards which i got too lazy to do xd
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 10:50 PM
yup lol
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:51 PM
imma just copy-paste the w

Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:51 PM
krasek = brother
but
krasek = brothers?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:51 PM
kraseky = brothers
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:51 PM
ty
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:52 PM
np
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:53 PM
what is the word for sister in ykədsız
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:53 PM
basek
or "başek"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:54 PM
baseky = sisters?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:54 PM
mhm
MEE6BOT - Last Sunday at 10:54 PM
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Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:54 PM
FINALLY
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:54 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 10:54 PM
got something right lmao
Saşka - Last Sunday at 10:57 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:03 PM
oh wait this is interesting
hang on lemme see if i can find audio of this
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:04 PM
?
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:06 PM
is uh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEgZFphlO1o
YouTube
Brava
Frozen - Let It Go Karachay-Balkar DVD Version (with S+T)

is this close
xD
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:07 PM
no her pronunciation is way off
i can understand few words but not many
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:07 PM
welp back to the drawing board
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:07 PM
xdd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:09 PM
how about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ArirN-eW7c
YouTube
Central Asia Peoples
Kumyk Language of Russia къумукъ тил Пайхаммар...

Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:10 PM
not even a little(edited)
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:11 PM
welp x3
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:11 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:12 PM
What about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyCGgat4Rwo
YouTube
FolkMore ФолькМоре
Apollinaria Nalcha (Azov Greeks-Urums)/ Аполлінарія Н...

Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
nope
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
[screams](edited)
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
even if i could understand that
it would still be difficult
she damn near mumbles xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:14 PM
tru tru lol
uh.... maybe this?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RRCG6XKcu8
YouTube
Central Asia Peoples
Nogai Language of Russia ногайский язы́кe NOG PStory...

Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
i can understand more of this than the old lady
primarily just pronouns
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
interesting
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:20 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:21 PM
how would you say
"give him to me"
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:22 PM
damelo
this is spanish right
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:22 PM
no this is patrick
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:22 PM

Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:22 PM
depends on how you say that phrase
is it "(you) give him to me"
like directing it to 1 person, or multiple
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:23 PM
let's just say one person for now
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:23 PM
om meni yeqesəm
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:25 PM
what about "He killed me"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:25 PM
O məni pəlden
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:30 PM
how do you say husband
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:30 PM
əykodj
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:31 PM
how about "foot"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:31 PM
ayək
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:31 PM
oooohhhh okay alright alright
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:31 PM
??
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:32 PM
that's gonna help me narrow it down a bit
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:32 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:33 PM
is that k at the end pronounced like it is in english
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
so does the translations channel come with certain languages or no
no ok
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
come...? what do you mean
oh
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
like its locked
to people who dont have a native language assigned
but mines not even a languagesjfalskjdfaklsdfj
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
oh hah
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
i think everyone has access here
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:36 PM
so i have to go by my secondary
that i dont even know that well anymore
everyone who has a native language assigned to them
because i didnt have it when i removed my serbian one
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:36 PM
weird
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
kulak = ear?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
ya
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
alright
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
kinda
kulək
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:38 PM
hmmm alright
parmək = finger?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
not even close
dənek = finger
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
T_T
so many ks lol
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
xd
agreed
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:40 PM
how do you say "dog"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:40 PM
"say"
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
how about "fish"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
balək
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
there's that k again x3
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
xd
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
claaaaaasic mystery language
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
def a turkic language though
lots of cognates
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
cool
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
kirpək = eyelash?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
nope
gözloy
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
T_T
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
göz = eye?
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:43 PM
@Saşka at least you're fluent.. Imagine if you only knew a handful of basic things
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:43 PM
mhm
xd
what do you mean?
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:43 PM
"heart" = "ürək"?
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:43 PM
I mean, if you weren't a fluent speaker, this would be a hundred times harder
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:44 PM
xd true
MEE6BOT - Last Sunday at 11:44 PM
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Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:44 PM
heart = ərt
which is weird cuz it looks like english
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:44 PM
does ərt mean anything else
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:44 PM
no
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:44 PM
does ürək mean anything lol
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:45 PM
uhhhh i think we used to call lazy people "üraky"(edited)
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:45 PM
hmmm alright
how do you say "arrow"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:47 PM
oşek
like an arrow part of a bow and arrow?
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:47 PM
yes, like that
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:48 PM
then yorü
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:49 PM
how do you say "fire"
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:50 PM
yakən
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:56 PM
how do you say the numbers 1 through 10 in ykədsız
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:58 PM
bir
iki
üc
pir
peqe
yeq
yed
üdja
dokuz
ön
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:58 PM
woah
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:58 PM
?
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:58 PM
why is it that "six" and "seven" are always so similar?
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:58 PM
xd
Mocha - Last Sunday at 11:59 PM
interesting, i have a list of 1,2,4,7,10 in turkic languages, all of these are clear cognates except pir, and pir looks oddly indo-european
Saşka - Last Sunday at 11:59 PM
xd

Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Sunday at 11:59 PM
interesting subset of numbers
March 26, 2018
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:00 AM
yeah, i don't know why they chose just those lol
peqe also looks like it could be from an IE language too but i cant tell without turkic cognates
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:02 AM
dunno
gee - Last Monday at 12:02 AM
Mishko speaks Turkish but idk if he'll want to help
At least I think he does(edited)
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 12:02 AM
@Мisjko ?
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:04 AM
4, 5, 6, and 8 are not cognate with turkic languages
the rest match very closely
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:05 AM
ya
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:05 AM
4, 5, and 6 could plausibly be from an IE language but I can't explain 8
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:06 AM
"there are seven cows on the farm" = "onlər yed düy fermsınan"(edited)
fuck this is fucking with me
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:06 AM
hue
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:06 AM
its an "n"
ok
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:07 AM
how do you say a hundred
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:07 AM
like "one hundred"?
or just "hundred"
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:07 AM
hundred
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:07 AM
ədjeren
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:08 AM
ouo
welp, there's another non-turkic word hue hue
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:08 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:09 AM
ön bir = eleven?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:10 AM
mhm
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:10 AM
does tanrı mean anything in this language
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:11 AM
no
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:11 AM
alright
how do you say "water"
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:11 AM
su
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:12 AM
how do you say "tree"
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:12 AM
agla
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:14 AM
@Saşka Okej
I need this get this right
because I;m way too curious now
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:15 AM
?
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:15 AM
you left 10 years ago right
so you have to know where you are from

Because
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:15 AM
i dont know what city i was born in
but i moved from novi sad
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
how old are you now?
20?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
18
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
okej so you spent 8 years in sr?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
no?
i spent 10 years in sr
8 in the us
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
you said you left 10 years ago
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
i left serbia 10 years ago
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
and you are 18 now
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
yes
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
18-19
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
xD
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:16 AM
10
is 8
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
yes
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
so you spent 8 years there
not 10
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
what
i was born in serbia
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
''i spent 10 years in sr''
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
i moved to the us when i was 10
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
basic math
xD
Okej so you moved 8 years ago
not 10
okej
so
from novi sad right?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
yes
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:17 AM
Okej I'm asking that because I want to figure out what you're speaking
as it's clearly not serbian
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:18 AM
probably a mix between croatian and bosnian
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:18 AM
no
your cases arent serbo-croatian like
sometimes you use cases
sometimes you don't
you use macedonian conjugation
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:18 AM

Mijo - Last Monday at 12:18 AM
and some words are present in both languages
so I'm super intruiged
xD
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:18 AM
xdd
i just speak how i remember
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:18 AM
do you still use it?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
not much anymore, no
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
not with your family?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
my dad left my family a long time ago
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
ah okii
your mom?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
hes the only one who spoke it
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
ooo
makes sense then
okii okii
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
my mom speaks some sort of turkic language that we are currently trying to figure out
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
so you are speaking it from memory?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
mhm
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:19 AM
this is amazing
I'm so intruiged
because Jatalu thought it was torlakian
I thought Rusyn
but then it's neither
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
xd
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
oki okii
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
my life is nothing but language fuck-ups
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
xD
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
I can say though with 99% certainty that this is a turkic language
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
Im talking about something else mocha
talking about the convo in #serbocroatian
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
ah
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:20 AM
well lit
interesting to see how knowledge of languages fades
I've the same prob
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:21 AM
xd
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:21 AM
guess we all do xD
kii I wont bother you with questions anymore
sorry if I seemed intrusive
just had to know
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:21 AM
xd you can ask questions all you want, idm
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:21 AM
well it's 1:21 am here now
so Ill go to bed
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:22 AM
ah
7:22pm here
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:22 AM
if you ever want to practice your serbian/croatian whatever feel free to hit me up!
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:22 AM
alrighty
Mijo - Last Monday at 12:22 AM
I give croatian sessions so if you're interested in that you can join
take care y'all
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:22 AM
xd you too
anything else @Mocha?
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:26 AM
what's the word for "sky"
MEE6BOT - Last Monday at 12:26 AM
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Saşka - Last Monday at 12:27 AM
ykya
or "göyəm" if you are talking about heaven
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:27 AM
very interesting(edited)
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:28 AM
brb i think food is done
ask your questions here and i will answer them when i get back
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:28 AM
sky > skya > ykya
English confirmed?
Think the next step at this point is identifying the source of these loans...
Yatalu - Last Monday at 12:29 AM
How do you say "I want to understand" ?
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 12:29 AM
Hashtag relatable
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:29 AM
[same]
Yatalu - Last Monday at 12:30 AM
@Saşka
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 12:30 AM
She's eating rn
Just so you know
Yatalu - Last Monday at 12:30 AM
I know
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 12:30 AM
Cool
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:32 AM
i want to understand = men dom anlaməkar
i just brought my food here xd
@Yatalu
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:34 AM
"I kill you" -> ???
and
"I give an eye to you" -> ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:35 AM
i kill you = men sez pəldim
i give an eye to you = men yeqim sizi bir göz
or men sizi bir göz yeqim
both work
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:37 AM
bir = a/an?
MEE6BOT - Last Monday at 12:37 AM
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Mocha - Last Monday at 12:37 AM
ty mee6
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:37 AM
yep
xd
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 12:38 AM
@MEE6 is the utter essence of language community
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:38 AM
who = ???
what = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:38 AM
who = da
what = nə
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 12:39 AM
I figured it out, all your es are upside down, just turn them around
Solved
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:39 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:39 AM
x3
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:39 AM
its a shwaaa
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:40 AM
uh oh, so the "what" is cognate but "who" isn't
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:40 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:40 AM
this is strange
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:41 AM
indeedddddd
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:41 AM
how you say:

* person
* man
* woman
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:42 AM
person = kekyanek
man = insan
woman = kadın
"person" can also be "bərda"
person = bərda, just go with that
"kekyanek" is only used like "folk"
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:43 AM
plow (noun) = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:44 AM
klü
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:44 AM
well, at least I'm learning this language, even if I can't figure it out, lol
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:44 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:44 AM
louse = bit?
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:45 AM
tf is a louse
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:45 AM
oh never mind then
x3
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:45 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:45 AM
worm = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:46 AM
xddd "darn"
worm = darn
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:52 AM
nose = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:52 AM
nayun
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:54 AM
tooth = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:56 AM
tös
speaking of teeth
i just bit the fuck out of my lip
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:56 AM
how you say "lip" lol
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:56 AM
xd lek
Mocha - Last Monday at 12:56 AM
tongue = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 12:56 AM
dil
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:00 AM
feather = pəsek
keyboard = klaviatura
computer = datətek/kompüter/pc
monitor = ekran
bread = krəs
pizza = pitsə
browser = krüyek/brauzer
face = pode
my face is ugly = podemın əyvan
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:01 AM
how much of this guy do you understand
https://youtu.be/jKsKQ0BKKNo?t=14s
YouTube
web bahasa
Public speaking- great speech of Erdogan(turkish language)

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:02 AM
a lot of things blurry
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:03 AM
is this easier or harder to understand than azerbaijani
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:03 AM
about the same
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:05 AM
This one: Easier or harder to understand than Azerbaijani?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AOK8N9imw
YouTube
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
Video Captures Turkmen President Bullying Officials

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:05 AM
harder
i understand nothing
almost
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:07 AM
Easier or Harder than Azerbaijani?:
https://youtu.be/gtuUdNpltN8?t=7s
YouTube
iranmojdeh
Qashqai Language Video (qas) قشقائی های عزیز! خبر...

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:08 AM
harder by a bit
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:09 AM
Easier or Harder?:
https://youtu.be/DHXthz8j9XU?t=7s
YouTube
iranmojdeh
Afshar Language Video (azb dialect) افشار های ایران! ...

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:10 AM
completely incomprehensible
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:10 AM

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:10 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:11 AM
Easfjkhsghhkghkhj?:
https://youtu.be/orxCfoShew4?t=7s
YouTube
iranmojdeh
Khorasani Turkish Language (kmz) ترک های خراسانی! خ...

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:11 AM
harder
gee - Last Monday at 1:12 AM
This feels like a game of cluedo lmao
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:12 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:12 AM
>do
found the brit
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:12 AM
xddd
gee - Last Monday at 1:13 AM
Well you're not wrong
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:13 AM
i like the song "sen olsan bari" - Aleyna Tilki
turkish song
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:13 AM
Eakjhfksjhdgklhdhfgj?:
https://youtu.be/gVCSXEM75Zg?t=48s
YouTube
31bozkurt31
Salar Turki MusicVideo // (Gezguci - Gezginci)

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:14 AM
ya no nothing
and why does it seem like what hes saying doesnt match up with the subtitles?
gee - Last Monday at 1:15 AM
We're gonna be here a while
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:15 AM
different orthography? x3
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:15 AM
i think we can conclude that i understand most of azerbaijani and turkish
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:15 AM
Hey gee, at least I've narrowed it down to a sub-branch of turkic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oghuz_languages
Oghuz languages
The Oghuz languages are a sub-branch of the Turkic language family, spoken by approximately 150 million people.

gee - Last Monday at 1:15 AM
Okay good
That's still a lot tho
Lmao
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:16 AM
My guess: Azerbaijani that took on a bunch of loanwords and is now totally different
gee - Last Monday at 1:16 AM
Maybe...hm..
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:17 AM
but what should it be officially called xd
its still just referred to as "speech" by the speakers
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:17 AM
I'd call it Ir
as a guess
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:18 AM
ok
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:18 AM
how do you say "dry"
also "yellow"(edited)
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:19 AM
dry = kuru
yellow = sarə
brb
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:19 AM
Well, that confirms it as being Oghuz at least
gee - Last Monday at 1:20 AM
This is intriguing
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 1:20 AM
A good investigation, to be sure
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:21 AM
Could potentially be based on a very very divergent dialect of Azerbaijani
Easier/Harder than standard Azerbaijani?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKf-Sf6Tces
YouTube
Azerbaijani Christian
Isa Film Azerbaijani South

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:23 AM
still about the same
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:25 AM
Are you in touch with your mother
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:25 AM
ya i live with her
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:25 AM
Can you ask her if any of her family has a religion, and if so, what
that'd be a bit helpful
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:26 AM
ya 1 sec
she said her parents are muslim
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:28 AM
anything more specific than that? :/
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:28 AM
oh ya shia muslim
thats as specific as it gets
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:28 AM
INTERESTING
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:28 AM
??
gee - Last Monday at 1:28 AM
OOOH
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:28 AM
that could actually really narrow things down
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
xd
MEE6BOT - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
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Saşka - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
everyone was typing in caps i was a little concerned xd
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
LANGUAGE
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
wOAH
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
WORDS
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
ME
İM UGLY
IM
FKKK
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:29 AM
Oh my god i feel stupid i just realized something
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:30 AM
?
gee - Last Monday at 1:30 AM
Wha? :0
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:30 AM
so you said her family is from azerbaijan right
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:30 AM
mhm
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:30 AM
is that the country Azerbaijan or the region of Iran called Azerbaijan
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:30 AM
i think the country
ya she said country
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:32 AM
how do you say "cat"
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:32 AM
pişikkkkk
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 1:32 AM
Exactly 5 ks?
Lol
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:33 AM
no xd
pişik
gee - Last Monday at 1:33 AM
Four are silent :p
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:33 AM
i may have found our mystery loanword language
but lemme check
gee - Last Monday at 1:33 AM
OOOOOOO
Antonio (Qwertz) - Last Monday at 1:33 AM
Ooh
gee - Last Monday at 1:33 AM
Please do I've been watching this unfold
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:33 AM
i want to make absolutely sure
ugh nevermind, it's the same in azerbaijani too ugh
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:34 AM
xd
gee - Last Monday at 1:34 AM

Mocha - Last Monday at 1:34 AM
how do you say "boy"
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:34 AM
kaye
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:35 AM
"daughter" = ?
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:35 AM
səjek
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:36 AM
"flag" = ?
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:36 AM
bayrak
?
found anything?
i found another turkish song and i like it
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:45 AM
found a non-turkic word possibly cognate with armenian, but no clear patterns so far
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:45 AM
what word is it?
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:45 AM
bərda, which is v. similar to armenian "mard"
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:45 AM
ah
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:46 AM
father = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:46 AM
posek
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:46 AM
welp, that's cognate to neither Turkic nor Armenian... T_T
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:47 AM

Mocha - Last Monday at 1:49 AM
bird = ?
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:49 AM
koş
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:50 AM
snake = ?

Saşka - Last Monday at 1:50 AM

ilanek
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:51 AM
does ilan mean anything by itself
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:51 AM
no
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:55 AM
[human] skin = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:56 AM
gön
Mocha - Last Monday at 1:59 AM
meat = ???
Saşka - Last Monday at 1:59 AM
nət
Mocha - Last Monday at 2:00 AM
blood = ?
Saşka - Last Monday at 2:00 AM
klösan
imma go for the night
Mocha - Last Monday at 2:01 AM
night o/
Saşka - Last Monday at 2:01 AM
night nighttt
Däkky - Last Monday at 2:02 AM
How do you even determine the differnence between ə and ö
Saşka - Last Monday at 2:02 AM
because ə is stressed more
and its just really obvious at least for me and other speakers
might not be for foreigners
Mocha - Last Monday at 2:04 AM
Update/Stats for people:
Still def. Oghuz Turkic as a base
Morphology very similar to Azerbaijani
~80-90% vocab definitely Turkic

Highest noun category with no clear cognates so far is body parts, at ~35% w/o a clear cognate
Saşka - Last Monday at 2:04 AM
it might just have something to do with how we learned to write it xd
but in my case, my language doesnt have a written language at all, but our speakers know what ə and ö sound like respectively
i hope to make an official written language for it
anyway night night
March 27, 2018
Saşka - Last Tuesday at 1:41 AM
if anyone wants to help me make the writing system of my language then dm me, its time-consuming to do it alone
night all
InflammatoryPrestige - Last Tuesday at 2:52 AM
Oh uh could I know more about it? I probably missed a lot :')
Saşka - Last Tuesday at 3:25 AM
just dm me what you would like to know
March 28, 2018
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 12:14 AM
would anyone like to learn? xdd

@Mocha wanna help??
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 12:57 AM
'to-distinctive'?
@Saşka
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 12:59 AM
yea its the conjugations for the preposition "to"
gee - Last Wednesday at 1:00 AM
Did you make this yourself?
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:00 AM
the entire table, yes
gee - Last Wednesday at 1:00 AM
WOAH
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:00 AM
107 different variations
gee - Last Wednesday at 1:00 AM
That's really cool goddamn
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:00 AM
im currently making one for regular nouns
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:03 AM
saska, do you mean that is the form you use when saying [to]+[pronoun] or do you mean that as the translation of english [to pronoun]
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:04 AM
to + pronoun
like
"i am walking to you"
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:05 AM
okay what i mean to ask is(edited)
is "to you" translated as one or two words
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:05 AM
1
"sizi"
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:05 AM
okay, then that's called the lative case usually
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:06 AM
so "i am walking to you" would be "men sizi gəzim"
Lative?
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:06 AM
yes
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:06 AM
but this is only for the prep "to"
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:07 AM
and 'for-distinctive' would usually be called, depending on what you mean by for, a 'benefactive case', and 'at-distictive' would be a 'locative case'
yes, a lative case
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:08 AM
oh ok
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:08 AM
so what do you mean by "for" in the box
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:09 AM
ty ty
like "for you"
"this is for you"
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:09 AM
for has many translations
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:09 AM
thats the only thing that would trigger that case
"for you"
like "for -someone-"(edited)
or like
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:09 AM
okay, but "for" means many things in english is what I'm trying to say
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:09 AM
"for -this- to happen"
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:09 AM
so what meaning(s) are you referring to
hang on let me get a list
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:10 AM
xd
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:10 AM

which of these 18 definitions apply to that case
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:12 AM
no. 2
no. 7
no. 9
no. 13
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:13 AM
okay let me think for a min
I'd either call that a Benefactive case or possibly a Benefactive-Final case
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:16 AM
imma just stick with benefactive xd
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:16 AM
that's fine
is prepositive supposed to be the form before prepositions? if so, that's typically called a prepositional case
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:20 AM
Prepositive is used for every other preposition
other than to, for, or at
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:20 AM
every other preposition?(edited)
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:20 AM
yes
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:21 AM
so if i say "before me" that would be m[schwa]n, and if i say "after me" that would also be m[schwa]n?
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:21 AM
yes
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:21 AM
very... strange
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:21 AM
yeah its really weird
but in the prepositive case, you would have to list the preposition before the mən and stuff
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:22 AM
oh, so that is a prepositional case
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:23 AM
xd
this language is highly difficult
i just noticed that nobody would want to learn this unless they want a very intense challenge xd
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:27 AM
sing 1 = proximal
sing 2 = distal

usually what they're called
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:28 AM
okay
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:28 AM
9 cases though... I'll save my judgement until I see the conjugations
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:28 AM
xd

for nouns
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:30 AM
only one declension?
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:30 AM
mhm
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:30 AM
may not be as bad as i thought, hue
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:30 AM
except theres irregular and regular nouns xd
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:30 AM
much less to remember than latin, in any case
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:31 AM
which means

regular = end in a consonant then a vowel (such as -re or something)
irregular = just ending in a consonant or just a vowel (such as datətek or su)
then those conjugations for nouns would be just a tad different
plus or minus a letter
but the conjugations would remain the same
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:32 AM
noun inflections are usually called declensions rather than conjugations
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:32 AM
true true
but i wouldnt think that hard xd
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:33 AM
I wouldn't call that regular/irregular though, i'd probably call that CV-stem and Consonant-stem
irregular declensions usually refer to declensions unique to a single noun
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:35 AM
I would call them
CV-stem
C-stem
V-stem
Since the consonant and vowel can be separate
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:35 AM
that works too
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:39 AM
xd
ty for helping too
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:50 AM
np <3
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:54 AM
finally done with nouns xd
now time for verbbssss
@Mocha i have a question now
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:56 AM
o?
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:56 AM
is there a name for the way consonants will change based on the next vowel?
such as "y" will become an "r" when next to i, y, or ı
but will remain "y" next to a, e, o, u, etc.?
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:58 AM
allophony
so you could say
r is an allophone of y next to i, y, and ı(edited)
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 2:00 AM
okay
ty
night all
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 2:04 AM
night
Yatalu - Last Wednesday at 11:30 AM
@Mocha @Saşka I know awesome people like y'all want to be hipster and use #translations for this but #other would be more appropriate
Mocha - Last Wednesday at 1:40 PM
@Yatalu I can't access #other :^)(edited)
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 1:56 PM
I didnt even know that existed
Yatalu - Last Wednesday at 2:04 PM
.sr @Mocha Learning other
NadekoBOT - Last Wednesday at 2:04 PM
Yatalu#6467 Successfully added role Learning other to user mocha2007#9534
Yatalu - Last Wednesday at 2:05 PM
.sr @Saşka Learning other
NadekoBOT - Last Wednesday at 2:05 PM
Yatalu#6467 Successfully added role Learning other to user Sashka#6281
Yatalu - Last Wednesday at 2:05 PM
Now you have it
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 2:05 PM
Ty
I hope my language will be added to this server too ;-;
gee - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
Get its official name had they just might add it :p(edited)
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
Tbh i think its impossible to find out what language exactly it is, i dont know of any other native speakers and my language is from the caucasus, which is full of hundreds of languages scattered around in a tight, crowded spot
gee - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
Hmm.. That's quite true
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
So i might as well document it myself
gee - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
Maybe something like "native Caucasus" or something lmao
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
Nah xd
Theres many things that could refer to
That could be referred to as
Turkish, azerbaijani, iranian, russian, etc
gee - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
Mmh
Yea
You'll find something in time I'm sure
Saşka - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
Most likely not xd
Especially if it doesnt have a written form
If you need me for anything, dm me