There was this alliance called AAA with a leader called Evil Thug. We allied up with them, and flew with them, we enjoyed our relationship.
Enter summer 2010.
In a sikrit meeting with AAA and Atlas and ROL, we hash out the plan to go attack NC.
The players are;
Nync - Red.Overlord
Manfred - AAA
Bobby- Atlas
We agree on assembling various teams to be able to attack on a multifront.
Nync is to gather his team, ROL and INIT.
Manfred is to gather up their team, Stainwagon
Bobby is to gather up his team, with COW and GC, and get the drone russians in on this as well.
Dates are set for this, 3 months ahead of time, plenty of time to prepare and get ready. Locations are set as well, so that we will be able to reinforce each other if need be. All in all, 4 different teams, with the options of maybe 2 more, with Ev0ke/CH as one, and White Noise and Co2 as one.
What happened in the end was that we arrived, ROL arrived, INIT arrived, and no one else.... 3 weeks late or so, after much bickering, we began seing BC gangs from GC/COW, but Atlas was nowhere to be seen, AAA had said they were gonna be late due to their Provi situation, so we knew about that.
We did what we could vs the blob, and did well with ROL and INIT while Ev0ke/DT/CH took CR from Goons.
Fast forward and AAA finally comes up, and Atlas wakes up as well. Stalemate occurs, and we are being hit heavily at home by PL and have no other option then to try and sort some kind of homedefence or PL will just go wild at our homebase, this makes the stalemate even worse, and we start loosing ground in the north when we have to jump back and forth between home and the north.
Our pilots are getting worn out, and fast.
Manfred comes to me with the idea of H-W, and sending everyone over there. I agree, but i dont agree on waiting 2 weeks to do it... since in two weeks, our numbers would have dropped to 20% of what we had now, and we would have had 20 dead CSAA in delve, we dont have any choice but to be fast.. or simply pull out.
H-W fails, its a grand effort, and it weighs on the scale, but it fails. The massive numbers of supercapitals that NC manages to get online for H-W is staggering, and the final battle is lost.
Regroup, recoup, breath.
The following meeting on teamspeak with everyone starts off with me saying "If you are not here to fight, get the fuck out, ive heard it all before, if youre not serious about this, get the f out", where Bobby takes his toys and leaves, sulking (Atlas had already posted orders to fallback at that moment). Everyone else stays, including AAA who says they are going to stay around, and make comeback. As it seems, they are not really serious about staying.. and their gangs are small, and not really seen, numbers fades.
Timeses, and PL has moved elsewhere, Delve is safe, and we can focus on the north again.. when suddenly Atlas followed by AAA resets us out of the blue. No real warning or statement really, only loose rumours... At this point, we cant really chance anything, and have to regroup home.
We use our diplomatic channels and asks AAA for our const in Q back, since we cant really have that anymore, we ask once, we ask twice, we ask umpteen times. We wait, and wait some more, since "its getting sorted".... After a month of waiting, we go take it.
Enter new leader of AAA. "Great" we think, maybe this will sort AAA out... it doesnt. Nothing new under the sky emerges, no new words, no new realtions, nada. The only thing that emerges is massive inside drama in AAA. We do nothing. We sit idle and wait and see what happens.
2 days ago, part of their new leaders comes to me, and wants to talk.
| Molle21:48 right, you wanted to talk to me? Blaster Worm22:02 yes, hi, tnx for call Molle22:03 whats up? Blaster Worm22:04 I wanted to ask your position on a situation in the south Molle22:04 i have none none of my allies are being attacked Blaster Worm22:05 ok, understand Blaster Worm22:07 you know that I was long time in ààà, and assisted for thug in delve war Molle22:07 yub Molle22:08 and before the delve war 2 you were also in aaa and shot us to to hell and back in delve 1 and right now youre still in aaa, and at the current neutral Blaster Worm22:08 yes Blaster Worm22:09 yes, but i speak about other Molle22:09 no need to go on about old times Blaster Worm22:09 sorry my english not perfect )) yes Molle22:09 not a problem Molle22:10 english is fine Blaster Worm22:11 I said to thug that game has changed, and ààà should change style Molle22:11 it has, to some degree, but not that much Blaster Worm22:11 And now we should play not only near to the house, and on all card Molle22:11 im not sure what you want from me though, i cant change aaa for you Blaster Worm22:16 sorry Molle22:16 np Blaster Worm22:16 one year ago I have offered ààà the plan - but they haven't wanted, and as a result all year were out of the big game Blaster Worm22:17 now new big game begins - and I would like to discuss, what it can be Molle22:17 the last thing aaa did to us, was to force us to go home from the north by first leaving us hanging, and then resetting us, leaving us no choice but to go home Blaster Worm22:17 yes Molle22:18 you can see that you do not have a very good point to start from i hope Blaster Worm22:18 I well remember this time - because was with Nync Blaster Worm22:19 and all that was done by Manfred is there was a shame for ÀÀÀ Molle22:19 regardless of who made the decision, it was aaa doing it Blaster Worm22:20 íóû yes all affairs have the consequences Blaster Worm22:21 but it already in the past too Molle22:21 the consequense in this case was that you lost alongtime ally Blaster Worm22:21 yes Blaster Worm22:23 I simply want to tell that ààà begins in many respects anew just fyi ) Molle22:23 ive been watching and reading, but i havnt seen anything apart from 4 corporations leaving Blaster Worm22:24 these are external changes, and it is possible, others will leave still Blaster Worm22:26 It is the big theme - to it it is possible to return later Blaster Worm22:27 I have a concrete question under initiatives Molle22:27 i think youre wrong, they arent allied with pl Blaster Worm22:28 now, they have _ with them and flight in cooperate have + Molle22:29 didnt when i spoke to them earlier today, they had temp blue to shoot some mommas afaik Blaster Worm22:33 They together kill poses in providence They are at plus together the third day - and not only against us Molle22:33 havnt really seen something like that yet, but, im far away Molle22:34 its not our conflict really, so havnt paid much attention to it Blaster Worm22:34 yes - but we had an arrangement with Init - not to shoot ñSC. We observed it - however they have broken it and steels + with pandas Molle22:35 thats between you and init, doesnt involve us Blaster Worm22:35 now the question - what will be your position if we seriously attack them ok Molle22:35 if INIT comes to me and asks for help, i would listen, they stodd behind us the whole time Blaster Worm22:36 because they assured that you will help them and consequently behave so defiantly Molle22:36 when atlas reset us, aaa reset us, INIT still helped us Molle22:37 but i cant say that im very interested in the south conflict Blaster Worm22:37 Yes, I know - therefore I and have explained my position on this question Molle22:37 everythign we had built up in the south was removed first with coven and se, then atlas and aaa Blaster Worm22:40 fs I see a situation - for russians in ààà the main enemy - xxdeathxx and RA because they deprive of us a stream of recruits Molle22:41 they are 5 regions away Blaster Worm22:42 two of them empty Molle22:42 and you recruit by standards and reputation Blaster Worm22:43 Except 20 titans bought for RMT there there is no special force Molle22:43 report rmt its ccp's job to dela with rmt Blaster Worm22:43 it not so easy All has been made accurately Molle22:44 still, its ccp's job to deal with, i stopped trying to police eve a long time ago Blaster Worm22:44 and we know it from people who won't want to be witnesses Blaster Worm is Available Yep, I'm here. Blaster Worm22:49 I wouldn't like to be at war with initiatives, because remember them on the north. Moreover - I helped them to agree on Immencea while itself was in ROL Molle22:49 thats between you and INIT Blaster Worm22:49 their union with pandas - here a problem for today Molle22:50 still, whatever your problems you have with INIT is between you and INIT Blaster Worm22:51 yes I simply want to know your position on this question Molle22:52 i dont have one, i havnt been involved in any way Blaster Worm22:52 ùë )) because if you support INIT, and against us will be IT and PL is will be cheerful Blaster Worm22:53 ok Blaster Worm22:54 i think that initiatives have already called WN against us too Molle22:54 no clue Blaster Worm22:55 I am assure it Molle22:56 no one has asked us for any help thats all i know Blaster Worm22:56 For you it not so is important - but WN it is people which titans buy and real money to the commanders pays ok Blaster Worm22:59 thanks for conversation Molle22:59 nps, my icq is almost always on, even if im not here |
As you can see, this gives nothing, the only thing AAA was after was "Will you help INIT if we attack INIT" - I think my asnwer to them is pretty clear, we wont get involved, unless INIT comes to us and asks for help. INIT has made no such approach, and has not asked us to come help.
AAA comes back to me again, after AAA loses 3 supercarriers to INIT and PL.
| Blaster Worm22:02 You probably know that initiatives together with пандемиками have attacked our basic systems. IT arranges such union? Molle22:02 Have you seen us doing anything whatsoever? Molle22:03 wE ARE NOT INVOLVED. And i do not appreicate your members lying about me or us. Monkey M3n > the reason why we not attacking Monkey M3n > is because burn eden is going to attack init space on friday Monkey M3n > and sir molle told us to kill init Blaster Worm22:04 Initiatives are at war with us more weeks Molle22:04 we're not involved Blaster Worm22:05 I simply ask it normally, what initiatives in plus with pandas against us? Molle22:05 i have no clue Blaster Worm22:06 INITs it is simple liars who have decided to replace the side Molle22:07 irf you want to yell at INIT, you should probably yell at INIT and not me? Blaster Worm22:07 i just ask about IT position ) Molle22:08 we're not involved in this at all Blaster Worm22:08 ok. if old allies to whom we helped in old time, prefer not to interfere - that it is necessary to search for the new Molle22:09 no one has asked us to ally with you again. |
The above reaks of frustration, and im not really sure what it has to do with us at all. Im still waiting for them to actually ASK for help, and they havnt.
Finally, the leader himself contacts me....
| Kir Laeda12:16 guten morgen it's Kir from AAA Kir Laeda is Available Molle12:16 morning Kir Laeda12:16 I've herd your compaign is finished succefully up north? Molle12:16 yub no one wants to play Kir Laeda12:16 congratulations Kir Laeda12:17 well I'd like to establish diplomatic relations after leadership change in -A- Molle12:18 you know my num ber Kir Laeda12:19 good to hear that well now here south is very busy with a lot of targets Kir Laeda12:20 and some interesting coalitions, I'd say surprising ones Kir Laeda12:21 so I would like to know your position towards all this mess Molle12:21 dont have one just watching it Molle12:22 your members are not improving your situation however. and lying. Kir Laeda12:22 how so? can u please explain Molle12:22 Monkey M3n > the reason why we not attacking Monkey M3n > is because burn eden is going to attack init space on friday Monkey M3n > and sir molle told us to kill init Molle12:23 spot the lie. Kir Laeda12:23 hmm sec Kir Laeda12:24 where he did tell so - it's just stupid troll stuff and this guy is not in command at any lvl Molle12:24 really doesnt matter where he posted that, and im not about to give away my insiders Molle12:25 what matters is that its a lie, about me, and us. Kir Laeda12:25 agree Blaster had a word with u Molle12:25 yes, im pretty sure he has language problems and cant really understand me Kir Laeda12:25 and we know that u told u netrla to this situation yet Molle12:25 yes Molle12:26 we are not involved. Kir Laeda12:27 never did we say otherwise oficially, and stupid ppl can be found in any organisation or it's just their thoughts. it's not smthn new unfortunally Molle12:28 we slap stupid ppl and correct them. not sure what you do. Kir Laeda12:28 I do the same Molle12:28 good Kir Laeda12:28 especially now I know Kir Laeda12:32 I'd like to make it plain and simple, we did not atack INIT, but they are now blue with WN and PL and atacking our space. I have no intention to atack theirs, but I will drive them away sooner or later. What do u think about them blueing each other. Molle12:33 i dont see INIT and PL being blue unless they have a specific target and blues up for that WN and INIT, no clue Kir Laeda12:34 well they have that specific target now... and that's after we agreed with WN not to hotdrop each other. Kir Laeda12:35 sorry INIT not WN WN are not using supers here yet Kir Laeda12:36 we were to drop them in curse but they didn't come to finish the pos... Molle12:37 What INIT does or doesnt do, is INIT's own business, the same way that whta we do or dont do is our own busniess. I wont put anything into anything whatsoever what INIT has done or havnt done. all this is semantics, "he said she said" and it doesnt really concern us whatsoever Kir Laeda12:39 ok, agree. that is about IT - AAA relations Molle12:40 We dont have any, AAA reset us, and forced us to go home from the north, after saying you would stick around in the north backing us up. Kir Laeda12:45 I remember that. As I see it, that was Manfred's reaction on H-W situation... Molle12:45 bullshit, since he was on teamspeak with us after that, and said AAA was gonna stay Kir Laeda12:45 and total misunderstanding within SC Molle12:46 5 days after, AAA leaves, AND resets us, leaving us with no choice but to go home. Kir Laeda12:51 if I remember correctly that was your decision to leave us in H-W without back up, for the slaughter. And yes I agree there were decisions from -A- side that did not help to solve the whole mess. But now I think it's time for new relations. Molle12:51 Every single pilot from IT was in H-W Kir Laeda13:39 ok, can we talk about reestablishing our relations? Molle13:40 What would we stand to gain from that? Kir Laeda13:41 What is it that u would like to gain? And this whole WN stuff will not stop after they siege us. Molle13:42 WN doesnt worry me whatsoever Kir Laeda13:42 we can start with helping protecting each others motherland Molle13:42 we have three choices 1) Do nothing 2) Ally up with WN 3) Ally up with AAA right now im standing firmly at 1 Molle13:43 And protecting each others motherland is protecting yours, ours is not in danger from anyone Kir Laeda13:43 atm yes, but this blob changes decisions very often Molle13:44 Im still not worried about our space i welcome PL/WN/RA+whatever to come to delve and try Kir Laeda13:45 that's a huge supercap blob noone can face it alone now Kir Laeda13:46 it's like child with shotgun Molle13:46 was only 100 supercaps that i saw Kir Laeda13:46 100 supers only from WN Molle13:46 nop I was there, i scanned them, i counted them |
And thats the end of any talks that was done with AAA the last few days. The result?
This thread, http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1382670, where AAA lays loads of blame on us for anything that is going on.
We had three options in all this, we had decided to stay with "do nothing".
That option is now changed to "kill AAA and help INIT take Catch, oh and while were at it, kill as many PL as you can see as well".
That is, if anyone of you wondered what is going on.....